Feb 17, 2014

Breaking the TEAL SPELL -- UPDATE: The Noncasts

Crossposted from Reflections Journal.

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Update: The Noncasts (See Below)

Further Update: Blake Addresses Jason Freedman Mystery (See Below)

Yet Another Update: Kicking "Tealers" Down the Memory Hole (See Below)

Some years ago, when I was doing the Flower of Life teacher training with Drunvalo Melchizedek, one of my fellow travelers shared with me that he was troubled by what he called the "Drunvalettes." The term was his own invention but there was no mistaking his meaning. He even pegged a few of our classmates with that term. He liked Drunvalo quite a bit but that there was this kind of adulation by some Flower of Life folks made him uncomfortable. He had some concern that Drunvalo might have been fostering this unquestioning sycophancy. So one day when we were enjoying a break, he asked Drunvalo very directly how he felt about his Drunvalettes.

Dru shook his head and sighed. "I just try to stay out of it," he said.

That's one approach. There's a conversation to be had, for sure, about whether ignoring the phenomenon and trying to distance oneself from it is enough. Is it necessary to more actively discourage such behavior? But I think the one thing we were all in agreement on -- Drunvalo, myself, and the gentleman who raised the concern -- was that such hero worship was not a good or healthy thing.

The term "tealer" has similarly been thrown around to describe those who've drunk the "teal-aid." Some of her more passionate and angry defenders who've posted on my blog have been quite pejoratively labeled "tealers" by other commenters. So imagine my horror when I read this in a recent TEAL post about her seminar in Atlanta.

I am struck by how much the imprint of the days of slavery still remains on some of the older buildings and railways here in town. It has soaked its way especially into the old wood that dots the brick walls. The venue for yesterday’s workshop was one such a building. It was a fitting energy, seeing as how the theme of the entire workshop was self-liberation.

This group which is being called the “Tealers” is the most open minded, eccentrically intellectual group I have ever beheld.  I think it is now my favorite part of holding these workshops.  Long-term friendships are formed.  People find their place to belong. And I get to witness the fact that this world is in good hands.  All across the globe, they form a supportive web of awakening.  They touch the lives of the people in the cities they live in.  It is like a little legion of enlightened spirits, whose practice is that of non-resistance and expansion.

You're Freeeee! Wait. Not so fast.

TEAL's posts are always a box of contradictions. The scenery is beautiful. The people are lovely. The town oozes its fetid history from every nook and cranny. Life is beautiful and filled with joy. I wander through a briar patch of PTSD triggers that hurl me into seizures and despair. My life is so rich and full that I've written a how-to book on self-love. Everything reminds me of my ritual abuse and being sewn into corpses.

And, bonus! This post comes with a healthy dose of bigotry... and, for good measure, a naked lady.

But I digress. She actually wants "tealers." It's positively Orwellian. You too can be liberated if only you will define yourself by your adoration of TEAL.

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As I said in my first post on the topic, I have never seen a spiritual teacher who has so blatantly courted adulation and fostered dependency. What I've learned two posts and volumes of feedback later is that it's so much worse than I thought.

Recently, yet another TEAL related Facebook group launched: Teal Tribe Dating. That might not be so bad right? A nice little meeting place for people of similar interests under her general auspices. But then I read the copy.

Teal Tribe Dating

"Teal Tribe Dating" is a group for human beings(Well... at least in the 3D) who are single and looking for a loving relationship with a like-minded partner. Teal Tribe turned out to be an easy awesome way for people who are familiar with Teal to find their true friends and soul family, and now you have a chance to meet your true love too. That idea works by the law of attraction: The vibration in this group is high because of the high vibrational message of Teal Scott; Which means meeting high quality and spiritual-minded people. To break the ice, here is a suggestion for introducing yourself:

. . .

Favorite Teal's Video/Art/Quotes:

*To search for profiles go into the 'Photos' tab and click the desired category... [All emphases mine]

Yes, you are part of an elite group of "high vibrational" people because you like TEAL. TEAL's followers are your true soul family. And you can all bond based on your shared devotion to TEAL. You can even find the love of your life as long as it's really all about ♥ TEAL ♥.

This all looks more and more cultish by the day. I can't help thinking of the Moonies and their arranged, mass weddings.

Obviously, Teal Tribe is not a cult like Unification, Hare Krishna, or other highly organized groups. It's not a totalitarian regime. But there are definitely cultish elements. It's enough, in my mind, to be concerning. I say this, in part, because of what I'm hearing from people, publicly and privately, about having difficulty extricating loved ones or even disengaging themselves from her strange pull.

Much of the feedback I've gotten has been from people who described themselves as having been "obsessed" with TEAL, or words very much to that effect. Some said their interest moved rapidly from interest in what she was saying to fascination with her and the soap opera that is her life.

That she turned her life into a kind of reality show called Shadow House, which opened a window into her "intentional family," fed the fascination. Her life is decidedly more interesting than her spiritual teachings. It's full of sex, fights, verbal abuse, and melodrama. Some of these programs made viewers privy to things like TEAL's humiliation of the aforementioned Fallon and also of a gal named Cameron, whose major crime appears to have been that Blake was attracted to her. The fourth wall was torn down completely as viewers made the whole thing interactive. The audience participation portion involved TEAL fans taking to chat, Facebook, and Teal Tribe to verbally assault these people for their grievous mistreatment of TEAL. Anyone who questioned TEAL's treatment of them was likewise set upon by the group.

Anyone who has ever witnessed the vitriol that TEAL inspires in her fans when they seek to defend her would have to wonder just what is meant by "high vibrational."

As I said in that first post, the Fallon episode suggested the confessional element of cult behavior referenced by Robert J. Lifton, as Fallon opened himself to group abasement for his "sociopathic" behavior. As I've learned more about these Shadow House livestreams from those who've viewed them, I've realized that it fits that criterion even more directly than I'd first thought. In Shadow House events, TEAL puts her "family" members in the hot seat and scrutinizes their shadows. Any viewer of these broadcasts would become privy to very personal, private information about her inner circle. According to many accounts, Cameron was compelled to participate over her objections. It ended badly and ultimately caused her to quit the area. This description of the confession element of cult indoctrination is adapted from Lifton.

Sins, as defined by the group, are to be confessed either to a personal monitor or publicly to the group. There is no confidentiality: members' sins, attitudes, and faults are discussed and exploited by the leaders.

Closely related to the demand for absolute purity is an obsession with personal confession. Confession is carried beyond its ordinary religious, legal, and therapeutic expressions to the point of becoming a cult in itself. (Page 425.)

Public confessional periods are used to get members to verbalize and discuss their innermost fears and anxieties as well as past imperfections.

The environment demands that personal boundaries are destroyed and that every thought, feeling, or action that does not conform with the group's rules be confessed.

Members have little or no privacy, physically or mentally.

In assessing the shadows of her housemates, TEAL relies heavily on Byron Katie's "The Work" for methodology. Katie is, herself, on the radar of cult watchers and accounts of her antics certainly do raise an eyebrow. For instance, she also does a homeless exercise very like, if not identical to, the one practiced by James Arthur Ray that resulted in the mysterious death of Colleen Conaway.

I would encourage those familiar with TEAL's organization to look over some of the cult literature linked herein. These two pages include characteristics identified by a number of cult researchers: Intro to Cults 101 and Cult Characteristics. I'm not as acquainted with the inner workings of TEAL world as many readers are but even I can see that these pages point to any number of red flags.

For instance  Rick Ross claims, "Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful." TEAL's vicious attacks on Fallon and Cameron as well as other thoroughly embarrassing Shadow House outbursts are not only justified but extolled as a virtue. TEAL is courageously showing the world her shadow side instead of hiding it like typical gurus, it is claimed. 

Cults are typically formed around charismatic leadership. Lifton observed, "The guru is worshipped, rather than the principles or doctrines (on which the sect is supposed to be based)." As stated, for many of TEAL's followers, the days and nights of Teal Bosworth Scott Swan have upstaged her spiritual teachings. She has made her personal life a major focus of her work, with her Shadow House livestream events and her confessional style blogging.

The American Family Foundation says, "The group is focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment." As discussed, her defenders are passionate, indeed, as I and other critics have learned the hard way.

Carol Giambavo puts it like this: "Charismatic or messianic leader who is self-appointed and has a special mission in life." To say that TEAL is self-appointed and has announced a "special mission" would be to understate her accounting. As discussed, she has described herself as a Eucharist projected here by an Arcturian panel and genetically engineered to be white and beautiful enough to be heard on "every single continent." 

This, again, is the interview in which she explains in painful detail why it was so critical that she have universally appealing features. But not only is she more attractive than those poor, ugly African women, she's not like the rest of us mere mortals at all. She's not even really human.

(9:30) So I am a soul fork. What that means is from nonphysical energy -- so most people in the planet, they're non-physical energy that is projected forth into a physical human body. I am non-physical energy that is perfect-projected forth into an Arcturian body -- an extraterrestrial body. Now that extraterrestrial being has chosen to then project forth as a human body twelve times. This is the twelfth incarnation. And it's quite, it's quite funny, ironically, because before I even came down, um, there was an entire panel of beings, Arcturian beings, sixth dimensional beings, who even chose the way I would look in this life....

(16:15) I'm now three points of perspective. Most people are two. Most people are the higher self and their human perspective, two points of perspective. I'm three, human, extraterrestrial, and nonphysical.

Special. She's very, very special. She also has no idea what irony means, because there is nothing in that story that is remotely ironic.

By virtue of her specialness, her followers are also special. As stated, they are "high vibrational."

As per the American Family Foundation, "The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and members (for example: the leader is considered the Messiah or an avatar; the group and/or the leader has a special mission to save humanity)."

You mean like a "supportive web of awakening" or a "little legion of enlightened spirits" who are devoted to an Arcturian projecting into human flesh to act as a Eucharist?

"Tealers" and "Teal Tribe Dating" members are told they've found their "place to belong" and their "true friends and soul family." It sounds an awful lot like the "love bombing" described by the Cult Information Centre: "Creating a sense of family and belonging through hugging, kissing, touching and flattery."

According to  the American Family Foundation, "Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished." Or as Steven Hassan puts it, "No critical questions about leader, doctrine, or policy seen as legitimate."

Many people report having had their comments deleted from TEAL's blog, when they raised uncomfortable questions or pointed out discrepancies. References to these deletions -- or having such comments held up in moderation -- are peppered throughout the comments on the two previous posts. Notably, a frequent commenter on TEAL's blog named Lena had her account deleted with her entire comment history. When this deletion was called out in the comments on my blog and then by regulars on TEAL's blog, Blake finally responded. He claimed that it was an error on the part of an overzealous admin who did so out of love for TEAL. I asked Blake to explain how it was that his claimed no-censorship policy was never adequately communicated to the admin and why it was that so many reported having been censored. That was weeks ago. He has never responded to my query. That exchange, such as it was, can be found here.

More to the point, consider how TEAL has responded to the questions I have raised in my two posts. She has called me a "hater" who "crawled out of the woodwork" to try to co-opt her growing fame. She has accused me of causing her great emotional pain. Her posts in response to my questions serve to polarize her most devoted followers against the very act of raising questions or having doubts. It solidifies an "us vs. them" attitude towards anyone who would dare question, which Hassan identifies as one of the methods of "thought control."

"Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as 'persecution'," says Rick Ross. In TEAL's case, it's morphing into paranoia. In a recent post, she cites her critics as justification for ramping up the already very noticeable security.

I’m sure some people are wondering why I bother having security personnel at my workshops if I teach (and believe) the concept of “I create my own reality”.  So I wanted to explain it to you.

. . .

Part of the contrast involved with fame is the contrast of having “haters” and “antagonists”.  We chose the potential of this contrast before even coming into this life.  We chose it for the sake of our own expansion.  The experience of these types of interactions and people, leads to the desire and therefore creation of staying true to ourself regardless of opposition, benevolence, unity, appreciative focus and love within our own lives and within the universe.  This is part of why we chose the “fame path” to begin with over other paths we could have chosen.

Another cult indicator is a lack of fiscal transparency. As Rick Ross puts it, there is "No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement." The billboard campaign is illustrative. After a number of people mentioned in comments on my blog that they wondered what had happened to all the donations to this project, the issue magically appeared in a new blog post. (That there is a call and response thing going on between my blog and her posts has been noted repeatedly.) But this explanation was at least a day late and a buck or two short.

As per usual, there is an enormous learning curve with any new endeavor.  The first crowd funding campaign we did accomplished almost nothing.  The perks we offered turned out to be almost as expensive to create and provide as the money people were donating.  On top of that, one of the people helping with the campaign, offered a perk that wasn’t his to offer due to a copyright someone else had on his work, so we ended up being forced to pay a bunch of money to a third party person for a perk that had already been delivered.  In the end, we made too little money in profits to accomplish many of our goals.  But having learned our lesson the hard way, we are planning in the near future to start another campaign with the very same aim.

So, it would appear that TEAL's idea of financial disclosure goes something like this: All that money you all donated? It's pretty much gone with nothing to show for it. Can we have some more?

Use of "deception" in recruiting and fundraising is cited by Hasssan, Giambalvo, and the U of C, but it also kind of goes without saying, doesn't it? Aside from the murkiness about people's donations, there's a lot about TEAL's claims that raises questions. Of course, whether or not she was specially designed by an Arcturian panel is a little hard to validate one way or the other. Such "revealed knowledge" is integral to many a religious experience but the difficulty in fact-checking means we accept it on faith or we don't.

But there is also a lack of empirical proof to things like her very central claim of Satanic ritual abuse. Many such claims were made in the 80s and 90s. But TEAL herself admits that there's no evidence other than the say-so of victims like herself and claims that most of those are too terrified to come forward.

As I wrote before, to TEAL's great consternation, the FBI investigated claims of Satanic ritual abuse and found there was no real evidence. Psychologists and other experts who testified in court cases against abusers have since been discredited and largely discounted as it's come to light that false memories can be implanted during therapy. That said, a great deal of TEAL's narrative comes apart if that doesn't happen to be true. In fairness, she may believe it whether or not it's true.

When I was looking into Byron Katie for this post, I came across another troubling bit of information. Her story of awakening and TEAL's are strikingly similar. Both involve insects which inspired radical shifts in perspective during very dark passages in their lives.

TEAL's story of the "little ant" that awakened her to the awareness of life teeming merrily all around her even as she was confined to a hole by her Mormon Satanist abuser starts at about the 17:00 minute mark. The inappropriate laughter as she begins to tell it is particularly jarring.

Byron Katie's story of awakening while staring at a cockroach can be found here.

Less than two weeks after I entered the halfway house, my life changed completely. What follows is a very approximate account.

One morning I woke up. I had been sleeping on the floor as usual. Nothing special had happened the night before; I just opened my eyes. But I was seeing without concepts, without thoughts or an internal story. There was no me. It was as if something else had woken up. It opened its eyes. It was looking through Katie's eyes. And it was crisp, it was clear, it was new, it had never been here before. Everything was unrecognizable. And it was so delighted! Laughter welled up from the depths and just poured out. It breathed and was ecstasy. It was intoxicated with joy: totally greedy for everything. There was nothing separate, nothing unacceptable to it. Everything was its very own self. For the first time I — it — experienced the love of its own life. I — it —was amazed

In trying to be as accurate as possible, I am using the word “it” for this delighted, loving awareness, in which there was no me or world, and in which everything was included. There just isn't another way to say how completely new and fresh the awareness was. There was no I observing the “it.” There was nothing but the “it.” And even the realization of an “it” came later.

Let me say this in a different way. A foot appeared; there was a cockroach crawling over it. It opened its eyes, and there was something on the foot; or there was something on the foot, and then it opened its eyes — I don't know the sequence, because there was no time in any of this. So, to put it in slow motion: it opened its eyes, looked down at the foot, a cockroach was crawling across the ankle, and … it was awake! It was born. And from then on, it's been observing. But there wasn't a subject or an object. It was — is — everything it saw. There's no separation in it, anywhere.

In the midst of this experience, the four questions that would go on to define "The Work" were born: Is it true or can I really know that it's true? How do I react when I think that thought? Can I find one peaceful reason to believe that thought? Who would I be without the thought?

So, here we have two women, in the depths of despair, after years of suffering, who both realized they could simply shift their perspective while staring at bugs. It's a little coincidental, doncha think? And Byron Katie is one of the only sources TEAL acknowledges drawing from.

I still have a hard time seeing how either of these teachings differ from telling people they can heal themselves through willful denial, but that's probably a discussion for another day.

"To us it's all about truth. And we have an addiction to it. We have this absolute addiction. Worldwide addiction to the idea that we have to know what is true, which is just ridiculous. Because most of us are killing ourselves with what we think is true. So the question is why do you want truth to begin with? I want truth 'cause I think I will be happier if I have truth. Okay, well what if the truth is this and that makes you feel like crap. Does that really make you feel better? Why are we going about it the long way? Why not just decide that what matters is that you feel good? It's the only reason you want truth anyway. And most of the time when people realize that, life becomes a bit more soft. You know? It becomes a bit more about does this benefit me, not is it true." ~ TEAL

It has been suggested by many people, myself included, that TEAL sounds an awful lot like Abraham-Hicks. But TEAL says no. At around minute 20:00 in the Nova Zem interview posted above, she says she'd only learned about Abraham channeler Esther Hicks about a year before because "someone" who was listening to her drew the comparison. She gives Abraham-Hicks a pat on the head for being the "most accurate" of channelers but this comes in the midst of her explaining why what she does is so much better than channeling. She really is a higher consciousness being. She's not just channeling one, which is all we ordinary humans can do.

That interview took place in March of 2013. But Blake Dyer, who is pretty much her right hand, knew about the Abraham teachings at least as far back as March of 2011, two years, not one year before. Now is it possible that there's some confusion about the dates? Sure. Is it possible that she and Blake didn't confer? Maybe. Is it possible that it's entirely coincidental that TEAL's teachings are "effectively identical" to those of Abraham-Hicks, as a commenter noted in response to Blake? I guess it's possible. What is stranger is just how it is that we know Blake was familiar with Abraham-Hicks in March of 2011. It's because we know to a near certainty that Blake was at that time doing a lot of his TEAL promotion under the name of Jason Freedman, who wrote this comment on an Abraham-Hicks discussion forum.

Hello all,
I am a free lance journalist who is a long time devotee of a teacher called Teal Scott (The spiritual catalyst)
When I was discussing Teal's teachings to a friend a while back, they said wow... That sounds just like what Abraham is saying. So, I decided to check it out.
I love the messages of both these Teachers (which are so very similar) I can't tell you the good it has brought to my life. I believe we are presented teachers just when we need them most.

How do we know that this Jason Freedman was actually Blake? Therein hangs a tale.

Soon after I did my first post on the woman then known as Teal Scott, a gentleman commenting under the moniker Mykeyta offered some background. He had once considered her ex-husband Mark Scott a good friend. Blake Dyer had also been a friend. The friendships were strained by his growing discomfort with TEAL's many claims and their absorption in her ambition. When an opinion piece was published in the local paper, discussing TEAL's claims of Satanic ritual abuse, he was troubled by the swarm attack on the editor who wrote it and any other commenter who didn't accept her story at face value. More than one of them were evocative of his friend Blake so he came to the conclusion that TEAL's "army" was largely made up of sock puppets. In particular there are several comments in that thread by Jason Freedman. Mykeyta found that Mr. Freedman had written the "puff piece" I mentioned in that post. He also noted that the picture of Mr. Freedman looked an awful lot like Blake Dyer. He called the number listed for Mr. Freedman and found that he also sounded a lot like Blake Dyer.

I don't know Mykeyta any better than I know TEAL or Blake Dyer or anyone else in their sphere, but to me his story had the ring of truth. More than TEAL's stories do at any rate. A photo taken from a distance in front of the Great Wall of China -- a place he knew Blake had been -- and his account of vocal recognition make for an intriguing story, but they're not evidence.

Flash forward to a couple of days ago when, on my second blog post on the subject, Mykeyta recounted the story to someone who very understandably hadn't read the 1000+ comments on these two posts. Another person called Ima Guest had been having trouble posting some comments due to computer issues but emailed me something more like documentary proof that Blake Dyer and Jason Freedman are one and the same. And it all comes down to that phone number.

Here's the number for Jason Freedman:

Jason Freedman Number

Jason Freedman Detail

Here's the number for TEAL's Frequency Jewelry:

Frequency Jewelry

Frequency Jewelry Detail

Here's the number for Blake Dyer:

Blake's Number

Here's what happens when you put the phone number in Google:

google 8019499651

I think it's pretty safe to say at this point that Jason Freedman is Blake Dyer.

This would mean that Blake Dyer, under a pseudonym, wrote up an interview with a former girlfriend to promote a business, Teal Eye LLC, of which he is the Director. He did not disclose his close association with TEAL or her business. Instead he posed as a fictional reporter "who writes for periodicals both nationally and internationally," but whose byline, strangely, only seems to bring up that one story in searches.

Worse, he used this fake persona, once again, to comment on the Herald Journal piece where he argued from authority as a reporter with a twenty year career. These comments appear alongside other comments from sundyer, Blake's official moniker, and who knows how many other socks.

Mr. Freedman wrote three comments in response to that column. They are the only comments he has  posted to date to the Herald Journal.

His first comment, posted at 10:25 am on Mon, Mar 28, 2011:

I'm totally appalled by the mocking and disbelieving tone of this article. "Just another reader" and "Bluto" and "DL in Den"... you are full of crap. I have worked for 20 years in investigative journalism,. I have seen reports like this one float across the desks of reporters only to be ignored because no one likes to touch these stories. Not because they are not true but because society is not ready to face the bitter reality that it does happen and did happen this time. Society's blind ignorance to this happening is why it continues to happen. I'm totally Ashamed that any of you would think this woman would have anything to gain from telling her story. Instead, she risks everything. She risks her own safety, credibility and connection by admitting these things. Women like her are the rare, brave, exception to the rule of silent victims. Anyone who does not stand beside her participates in silencing victims and therefore siding with perpetrators everywhere. Perpetrators BANK on victims being discredited as some of you have done.
the only reason the columnist mentioned her book (which aside from the foreword has nothing to do with abuse) is because he saw an interview with her in it talking about the book on Park City TV. The book is the reason he even heard this story.
He admitted this himself.
I thought this editor did an injustice to victims everywhere by releasing this column with a "tale tale" tone to it.
That was the only thing "LAME" about this article.
I'm embarrassed to be human today having read some of the un supportive comments that are being written about this.

His second comment, posted at 6:57 pm on Mon, Mar 28, 2011:

I got very upset about that. I did not mean to be insulting. The issue is this... I happen to have done a lot of journalism in jails where I talked to three separate prisoners who confessed to me directly about how they would go about mentally programming children. I have heard it from the horse's mouth. Not the victim's mouths.
Visit this link for a bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUfzWTem15E (first of eight videos)
and http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/studies/satanic-ritual-abuse-evidence-with-information-on-the-mcmartin-preschool-case/

His third comment, posted at 9:02 am on Tue, Mar 29, 2011:

The only reason I can see for people to be so adamant to discredit claims of ritual abuse is if they themselves where practicing participants.

Mr. Freedman also wrote a letter to the editor, making basically the same case.

In response to the article titled “Claims of local torture cult got this editor’s attention,” featured March 27, I am appalled by the disbelieving tone of the article addressing the ritual abuse suffered by the subject of the aforementioned article, “Teal Scott.” I am a freelance journalist who has seen reports of ritual abuse in our state float across the desks of reporters and be ignored for 20 years. This ignorance to the validity of these stories is exactly why they continue to happen in our community. As a result of this article, I have researched Teal Scott myself only to find that she is not to be discredited. It is time that the citizens of Utah came out of ignorance about the ritual abuse (especially satanic ritual abuse) that continues to go on in the state and stood behind those who are brave enough to come out of hiding and say something about it.

If Blake and Freedman are one and the same, as they surely appear to be, that would mean that in order to attack and shame people for questioning the veracity of TEAL's story, he's adopted a fake persona and proffered as evidence prison interviews that never happened during a journalism career history he's made up. Blake Dyer has raised mendacity to an art form.

Pay attention, TEAL. That is irony.

Speaking for myself, a realization of that kind of fraud would cause me to become disillusioned. Disillusionment is painful, but I prefer it to the alternative -- believing in an illusion. I guess I'm one of those people who's addicted to truth.

I have experienced similar disillusionment. I have learned to my great dismay that teachers I have followed were not what they appeared to be and even that they were baldfaced liars. I have discovered that I was being manipulated and mislead. It was painful. It did not "feel good" to learn it. I'm still glad I learned it because it freed me up to seek elsewhere for spiritual education and guidance.

And I have felt very foolish. Like many people, I used to think that I was too smart to fall for con artists and cult leaders. I was wrong. It was humbling. But humility is a great place from which to start over.

"When I hear someone say that only stupid people fall for fraud, I feel like asking for that person’s phone number. But here’s the thing: I didn’t want to talk to stupid people, because stupid people don’t have $50,000 lying around to give me. You would be amazed at how many doctors, lawyers, engineers, and college professors I have ripped off. The bottom line is, fraud is a crime that can happen to anyone, given the right con artist and a victim with the right set of circumstances." ~ The Anonymous Confessions of a Con Artist

In the comments, following my last post on TEAL, a woman named Becky asked what I and other commenters recommended for spiritual guidance and inspiration to fill the gap left by TEAL. It was a good conversation that can be read in full starting on the first page of comments on that post. I'd like to address it here because my rather lengthy attempt to address it in the comments was eaten by blogger. But also because I think it's a good jumping off point to a larger conversation about healing after this kind of disillusionment.

I was thinking about how defensive people get on the whole Teal subject, and why that is... It occurs to me that maybe it's because in a way she gives a lot of people hope. People hear her story and feel empowered by it, if she can "beat those odds" maybe they can too.

I think they start to get angry because they might feel betrayed by Teal when the story starts to fall apart, and that hopeless feeling starts to return. That's probably a space a lot of people don't want to go back to, so they live in denial about the story crumbling, but they still have to direct that anger somewhere.

Somehow the phrase "Don't shoot the messenger" comes to mind. A lot of people are taking this stuff very personally and it might be a good idea to ask why that is?

I was just thinking about my thought process through all of this, how my emotions came into play when I was trying to figure out where I stand on all this Teal stuff.
I guess I'm asking, what else has helped you, what gives you hope? What inspires you? What's helped you grow as a person?

I'm curious about what resources you trust that you would direct people to if they wanted better themselves, but didn't necessarily know where to go?

What she is describing in the first part of that comment is cognitive dissonance and it's key to understanding manipulation and indoctrination. Leon Festinger did the seminal research in the 1950s. I touched on this briefly here, as well. Festinger theorized that people are most comfortable when their thoughts, feelings, and actions, are all congruent. Among other things, this means that we are strongly motivated to continue believing falsehoods if no longer believing them comes into conflict with life choices we've made, money we've laid out, and happiness we've attained by believing in them. So very often we will cleave to the falsehood with greater ferocity to protect our own sense of inner harmony.

I am always a little reticent to make general recommendations because there is no one size fits all when it comes to spiritual teaching. In particular, when a person is coming out of a situation where someone has been abusing spiritual authority, as I believe TEAL does, the last thing I want to do is run the risk of further over-running instincts that may be quite damaged.

I will tell readers what I tell my clients. My recommendations are my opinion. If what I say doesn't feel right for you, disregard it.

If you are coming out of any abusive situation, spiritual or otherwise, there is probably soul loss. For that I recommend soul retrieval. I had several soul retrievals with a skilled shaman. They helped me to restore parts lost to abusive teachers and healers. They also helped to restore missing parts that had left me vulnerable to such influences in the first place. They helped, period. My path takes me through shamanism and indigenous teachings so that work is a fit for me. The seminal book on the topic is Soul Retrieval by Sandra Ingerman. For more information, a good resource is Christina Pratt's internet radio show, Why Shamanism Now? The entire catalog can be heard for free on iTunes and other streaming sources. Finding information on some of the relevant broadcasts can be found by searching the word retrieval on my Celestial Reflections blog.

Another great resource for restoring the soul and repairing damaged instincts is Women Who Run With the Wolves by Clarissa Pinkola Est├ęs. I call it, among other things, therapy in a book. It really walks you through a process. I've written more about that book and the power of story here and here.

Mostly, I recommend following your nose and seeing where it leads you. It's just a good idea to get in touch with your instincts and learn to trust your sense of smell first. Christina Pratt talks about bouncing everything off your "truth cord." It helps if you've located that line that runs right through your core.

In much of the developed world, we've been raised to think of God and the paths to God as outside of ourselves and dependent on spiritual authority. We've been acculturated to seek the teacher who speaks with certitude based on things only he or she could know and, as such, bestow upon us. But I think argument from authority is a logical fallacy and have learned to avoid such teachers like the plague. This, in part, is why the "cosmic answer lady" persona in the Ask Teal videos is something I find so off-putting. I don't trust ex cathedra teachings.

Spiritual guidance should take you inward. It should foster your personal relationship with spirit. It shouldn't be about the teacher. No teacher should be giving you answers. They should only be teaching you how to learn.

I don't recommend authors and teachers who tell you that spiritual development is simple, particularly if they give x number of steps. To quote Joseph Campbell, “If you can see your path laid out in front of you step by step, you know it's not your path. Your own path you make with every step you take. That's why it's your path.”

There are any number of authors and thinkers I could point to who delight, inform, and inspire me. Their names are peppered throughout my writings. But when I really think about what inspires me, it's not a person. It's spirit. It's my personal relationship with my guides and the pathway to the numinous that runs right up the center of my being. It's the amusing game of finding Easter eggs hidden in the most unexpected books and movies that my guides point me to. It's those moments of reverie that come simply because I am staring at a piece of art or listening to music. It's the constant reminders from the spirit world that even when I think I'm running my own life, I'm not. I'm being led by the hand by something so much wiser than I am and that it is that inner compass that has told me to pick up a certain book or watch a particular movie or go to a certain place at a certain time. I have incredible gratitude to teachers and healers I've worked with like Virginia Sandlin and Christina Pratt. But in the end what I am grateful for is that they consistently pointed me not towards themselves but towards my own connection with all that is.

Addendum: My two previous posts on TEAL are worth reading for additional background and for the phenomenal discussions that have taken place in the comments:

Who and What is Teal Scott
The Artist Formerly Known as Teal Scott

Update: "The Noncasts"

In March of this year, TEAL and her new husband Sarbdeep Swan introduced a new video series called "Tea Time with Teal" -- not Tea Time with The Swans, mind you. TEAL is still the staaahhh! Only her name can appear on the marquee. I think it's in her contract.

These weekly episodes are called "podcasts" but aren't anything of the kind. Whereas podcasts are hosted on a platform, such as iTunes, so that they can be easily downloaded, kept, and enjoyed on other devices, these are just more garden variety YouTube videos. Podcasts are designed to be accessible, easily disseminated, and portable.

Ironically (note the correct use of this word), these not-podcasts are announced only to an email list, are posted on a hidden, unlinked page on her website, and the YouTube videos are set to private. I won't call them podcasts. I have variously referred to them as: stealthcasts, not-podcasts, tea things, narrowcasts, and narrowcasts for tea-sipping pod people.

The icing on the irony cake? The second of these husband and wife discussions was about TEAL's insistence that their private life be open to the public.

These tea things have provided great fodder for discussion in the comment thread for this blog post. The conversations evolved into a regular feature I call the noncasts. These write-ups mirror the subject matter in that they report on discussions of the tea things I've had with my husband. The official title of this series is "How to Drive Your Double PhD Husband Crazy by Making Him Watch TEAL Videos."

As with the tea things, these are not indexed, freestanding posts. If you're interested, you'll have to dig for them. They can only be found in the comment thread for this post. Page searches for the words noncast or tea should get you there.

* Addendum to the Addendum: With the end of teal's marriage to Sarbdeep, comes the definitive end to "Tea Time with Teal," and, therefore, to the noncasts. I will conclude this exercise by adding to this already absurdly long post a complete list of the noncasts. I will include a link to the initial comment of each noncast, for those whose browsers can interpret that, and the page link for the relevant comments.

In those teacasts, we all got to know a third member of teal's menagerie: the frog. He emerged as a star in his own right. Calm and stoical as only a butler of such impeccable credentials can be, he kept his head when all about him were losing theirs. The frog recently launched a video channel and has begun producing videos in the odd hours, as his schedule permits. The first includes his thoughts as interpreted by his growing legion of fans. So, teal, Sarbdeep, and frog, thanks for the memories.

Further Update: Regarding Jason Freedman, et al.

This post raises a question about the odd correlation between Blake Dyer's and Jason Freedman's likeness and phone number. It took an incident in the Teal Tribe Facebook group to get Blake to address this question, but he has. It would have been nice if he'd done so directly with me, but I'll take what I can get.

What I could get was some screenshots given to me by Teal Tribe members of Blake's attempts to explain this odd coincidence, and another oddity involving a claimed psychiatrist, William Macey PHD [sic], who also bear's Blake's likeness. I have discussed this matter in the comments, but it occurs to me that it, in fairness to the reader and to Blake Dyer, it should also be placed in the body of this post.

The following screenshots are not in any particular order and vary in format, as they came from various sources in various forms. I don't actually know how the dialog unfolded. I only know that these questions were raised in the Teal Tribe group and Blake attempted to answer at least some of them.

Blake denied both knowing Jason Freedman and knowing how it is that he came to have the same phone number. He did so more than once as follows:

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Blake acknowledged that the photos used by both Jason Freedman and William Macey were of him, but denied knowing how they came to be associated with either:

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So, my question to Blake, which I posed down in the comments as well, is simply this. How is it that he does not know Jason Freedman? Freedman apparently did a face to face interview with TEAL. Couldn't he just ask her? And if he is in the dark about this interview with the mysterious Mr. Freedman, how is it that he promoted said article on Facebook?

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Yet Another Update: Kicking "Tealers" Down the Memory Hole

It brings me no joy that I must, once again, update this excruciatingly long post. But it's recently come to my attention that teal is trying to rewrite history. Above I quoted a passage from her Korean spa post about the world-changing potential of the "Tealers." At some point between the original publication of that post and its move to her new website, the passage I quoted above was changed and the word "Tealers" removed. But the original text is still visible on the cached version in the internet archive, or wayback machine.

Here is what that passage looked like when it was originally published in 2014.

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Here is what that passage looks like in the current version on her new website.

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Her clean-up was incomplete, however. The word "Tealers" appears further down in the post.

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  1. LV did you read some of Jessica's (schab or mystic) stuff in regards to the EOF (end of fear) Project....it is very interesting and challenging. She and her partner are posting regular articles - very thoughtful, very ..... and it pisses many people off. I notice very unique reactions when reading the articles...they are not spoon-fed magical stories a la Teal...the exact opposite. I feel constantly called out...in a good way. mmmhhh


  2. Yeah, GA, my husband has made the Krishnamurti comparison many times. There are a lot of spiritual leaders, though, who arrogate authority. What teal lacks most is their subtlety and tact.

    I've looked at some of Jessica's stuff, not as much a you have, clearly. She's really sweet.

    Best of luck with your move. I hate moving, as you know.

    "I just remembered this fairy tale
    The Wishing-Table, the Gold-Ass, and the Cudgel in the Sack :D"

    The whaaaaa?

  3. By the by, we've had another probable Blake sighting.



  4. " In fact, she has become more to some than an extraordinary spiritual guide. As the 2012 Mayan calendar end date fast approaches us and members of all faiths are aware of (and even afraid of) the extraordinary change that is afoot, Teal Scott has become a spiritual icon. Many of her followers firmly believe that Teal Scott is a manifestation of the divine, sent to lead humanity through these trying times. This reputation is said to not easily be refuted when one meets with her in person."

    This is not just way over the top hagiography these socks have littered the web with. This is some really creepy messianic craziness.

    Of course, now that we know that she's the being in the white light who helps the near-dead decide between life and death, nothing should surprise us anymore.

  5. So Anne's whole career is based on Teal scott Articles ( ;



    And if you feed the google monster with this -
    "Anne Whinney" is a Thought Field Therapist -
    not much pops up except Teal stuff and this empty and lonely blogspot page



    ah well. you do what you can to get out there...It would be wonderful if Blake can provide contact details to jason freedman and anne whinney



  6. wtf? :D


  7. "So Anne's whole career is based on Teal scott Articles"

    Yeah, it's funny all these experts, PHDs [sic], and "free lance" journalists [sic], pop up around teal but have no other web presence. Odd in this day and age for professional people to have no web presence.

    I really had never heard of that folk tale, GA. What fun. I love a good folk tale.

    The video... yeah.... I think it was silly hour at chez Greg Matthews.

  8. The other thing that's kind of funny is that there was another Ann who happened to post the same story Jason Freedman did.


  9. I bet Jason & Anne had a little drink together after being blessed with the first 2 interviews. Yeah Greg has an interesting approach in regards to Tealtruth. :D I bet he had a glass too much that night. He is funny tough.

  10. www.Tealtruth.com disappeared - and with it, all short video "quotes" of Teal uploaded by Greg's account https://www.youtube.com/user/goldcoinreport/videos

    I wonder: either change of mind & heart or a juicy breech of copyright threat arrived in his mail box.

    Either way, tealtruth had a short life.

  11. Oh!

    Now what did he find out?

    An unanswered question till the end.

    Did somebody threaten him to destroy his house block...in reference to his last video?

    I just notice...everytime a question pops up, the serenity of not-searching disappears :D - : / such an annoying game.

  12. Thanks LV - In 4 days the move is over and I will have 5 chickens, a polytunnel and a greyhound puppy on top of my 3 dog pack. This will be interesting ( : I have already over 20 eggs and i am a veg ha. I guess - happy dogs.

  13. Mmmmmmmm.... Farm fresh eggs.... jealous.....

  14. So another odd bit of trivia I picked, from someone who can stand to look at teal's art for more than split seconds at a time, is that teal has incorporated the symbol for the Necronomicon in her less than aptly named Soul Retrieval.


    So what's up with that? Is she trying to raise fictional Lovecraftian demons?

  15. Remember? Jessica was mentioning that she heard that teal likes to be dominated by guys...or so. I finally found it. (first few minutes)


    Poor Gabriel :D a bed, a woman and loads of fantasies told by the woman...ahm spiritual catalyst. It is good and very important to know how Teal likes it in the bedroom.

    root chakra parties in teal tribe land....and followers.

    I did like teal's painting for a while because they reminded me of glowing church windows...but I fell out of love with them. They scatter my mind and it is very loud and the eye can't rest...it's like brain overstimulation and chaos....I find rest by concentrating on some colors. I wonder if Teal actually has some painting skills...like a la realistic... I saw the boy sketch she was uploading but something is strange about it. It looks like painted on a photo print or so...

    Well all her art not my cup of tea. I am sure if you study all her crazy eyes paintings you will find much more symbolism put there on purpose...I wonder if a software designs these abstract lines and teal just copies them on a board....

  16. Wow, GA, that was way too much information. Those two need to get a room. Ever notice that whenever he interviews her, they get onto the subject of sex?

    You know what else I notice? Once again there's the thing about men with their hands tied. She's twice said that in relation to Sarbdeep and both times it was weird and out of context.

    "They scatter my mind and it is very loud and the eye can't rest...it's like brain overstimulation and chaos...."


    But why the Necronomicon? It's not like I find the symbol fearful. The book is a literary in-joke that some people think is real. I find it rather funny when people think it's real. But I can't imagine what good use it could ever be put to. It's rather like her art, I guess. Overwrought and geometrically meaningless.

  17. LOL


  18. Sorry to bump in like this, I've commented a long time ago but I still read what you write :) Well, I've noticed one thing on that painting of hers, alongside Necronomicon symbol, the symbol she uses on top of her painting is a Reiki symbol you receive during 2nd (Reiki) attunement. It's called "Cho Ku Rei" and it's a Reiki "power symbol. It's been a long time since I've used them but I still remember them. And what I remember is that that particular symbol is used when you want to give more "power" to something...It can be used to energize, to cleanse... In combination with Necronomicon....well you do the math.
    P.S. I enjoy reading you guys and I really enjoy all the perspective you give :)

  19. ...and I forgot to mention, it's also used for protection..

  20. Well, Irena, so it is.

    "Choku Rei also gives the other symbols more power when they are used together."

    You know I can never decide if teal uses these symbols this badly because she doesn't understand them or because she does. That's so dumb and so creepy at the same time. But I increasingly understand why people who believe in vast dark side conspiracies think she's "Illuminati" or whatever.

  21. I'm not sure either...is it ignorance or she knows precisely why she uses them. I received my 2nd Reiki attunement 8 years ago and I know that at the time my teacher (who later became one of my biggest disappointments but hey, I guess we all tend to run into that one "spiritual teacher" who is not what he/she seems to be :)) was all very secretive about the symbols and how you are not supposed to show them to anyone. Well, I dislike secrecy or more precisely I dislike the attitude - "this is oh so spiritally/new agey special and you cannot tell "regular" people about it, it's special" but I do know that those symbols weren't even published in books on Reiki, and in pre-internet era, the only way you could learn about them is by being attuned yourself. These days, you can find everything online. I have a thing with symbols, I take them seriously and I wouldn't use/wear as jewelry something I don't full understand and something that doesn't relate to me... So I am not so sure, in a way I think she is a very calculated person and that she knows exactly what she's doing. To what purpose....well you guys analyzed that pretty well :)

  22. I dislike the secrecy, too, Irena. I don't know if you know, but there is actually a lot of controversy around reiki. I thought it was interesting that in the post I linked to, the writer said she found flipping the symbol was more comfortable. A channeler told me some years ago that the most prolific reiki school is based on reversed symbols and that it actually steals energy. I don't know. But some time before that I'd had my reiki attunement removed and it proved to be the best choice for me. I don't like the feel of it.

    I'm someone who believes symbols can be very powerful, in part because of their geometric underpinnings. I think the Necronomicon symbol is nonsensical, both because of its history and it's geometry. But a lot of people are invested in it, which lends a certain kind of power... and not in a good way.

  23. I didn't know that about reiki but it never really "clicked" with me. I cut all the ties with my teacher somewhere in 2009. and I never really used it. I got into it through a former friend and the reason why I "fell" for it is because it was my first real life experience with all those "spiritual" (also, I dislike labeling :)) stuff since I live in a country that is strictly catholic (Croatia, Europe) and there is not much room for anything else. Before that, when I was around 19 I discovered that I am a natural healer (or whatever you want to call it) and someone later mentioned that Reiki would be a good thing to ...ground me? channel energy? But I didn't know that what you posted and I thank you that you did. I kind of "feel" things and what I felt for some time is that my reiki is "not good" partly because of my former teacher. She is now an avid member of OTO church, actually she was initiated while we were still friends and again, a huge veil of secrecy. Now, it's not Crowley's teachings that drove me away, after all, I read his books when I was 17 and he was my first contact with those sort of things. So no, he doesn't scare me, but again, secret society, secret rituals... meh, nope.

  24. And if it's not too personal, how does one remove reiki attunement? :) Can you do it yourself or you need someone to do it?

  25. Irena, it's not personal. I will be happy to tell you the whole story. One of the people I did the training with initially, I told this story, and she went home, worked with her guides and feels that she successfully removed it.

    It's a little long, so bear with me. It will probably take more than one comment. I've never told this story in writing before.

    I want to say, at the outset, that what I say was my experience and what I felt was appropriate for me. If people love their reiki and it feels right for them, then by all means, they should do their reiki.

    Now, let me start by explaining why I think reiki is problematic. Firstly, for the same reason a lot of energy healing is problematic for me. It's entrenched in duality. If I think I'm facilitating healing by drawing universal energy energy through my head and out of my hands into someone else, I'm participating in the illusion that source, universal energy is outside of me. (Like somewhere in the twelfth dimension see: teal) To do a lot of these modalities is to "channel" universal energy. When I studied reiki, I was told that's what the name means: rei=channel, ki=universal energy. But you see, I couldn't channel universal energy if I tried. I AM universal energy.

    Now, with reiki, that idea of duality is actually being programmed into the aura with a set of symbols.

    What bothers me about reiki is less that it keeps some things secret, and more that it keeps things secret from initiates. They don't tell you specifically what they're programming into your aura. I know I had to close my eyes when the reiki master did a bunch of symbols over my head. There's something very wrong with that. I believe that healing should be very client centered. And learning should be just that. I should learn something. I really didn't feel like I learned anything when I did my Reiki I. All I got was these symbols in my aura that changed my energy field enough that my cat didn't recognize my hands at first and tried to bite me.

    People told me, well you learn some of those symbols in Reiki II, which seems like a con to me. We did something permanent to your aura for $. We won't tell you what we did until you fork out $$. And if you really want to know what we've done to you, it'll be $$$.

    I opted out after Level 1, and never looked back.

    -- to be cont --

  26. -- reiki, cont --

    So, why did I do my Reiki I? I was young, I wanted to do healing work, I've always had the "hot hands" and I wanted to know what to do with them. And, I wanted a credential. So, reiki was the first thing that became available to me. I thought, hey, it's a starting point. I did that training. A lot of the people were genuinely lovely and I really believe, very well-meaning. But, I didn't love it.

    There were noticeable changes in the energy in my hands, which was already quite palpable to me. As I said, my cat, who loved me but could be a little weird with strangers, tried to bite me. I knew it was a possibility because the teacher said that pets might react. I'll never forget the look on his face. I went to pet him like usual and his eyes went cross, his pupils dilated, and he stared at my hand. Then he snapped at me. Not hard. It was a warning bite. He knew it was me in front of him, but he did not recognize my hand. He adjusted of course. And I adjusted to the shift in energy and pretty much forgot about it. I went on to study some other healing forms and just never cared about the reiki credential.

    Time went by, pages blew off the calendar, I was no longer working in publishing, and I'd embarked on my new age life. I was working in a new age bookstore. One evening a couple came into the store. The woman and my boss were old friends. They went off to get a bite and get caught up. He stayed in the store looking at books. The woman introduced him before she left and said, he could look at books all night, but just a warning, he might try to heal you. Fair 'nuff. That kind of store.

    So, after a while when he and I were alone in the store, he came over to the counter and asked me if I'd ever had hand reflexology done. So, fine. He was quite good at it.

    Then he says, I need to tell you that you have some entities. I didn't even know what that meant. He said, They're trying to get out and every time they try, they pull you out of body. But they can't get out.

    So, finally he says, Do you really want those there. I still had no idea what he meant. What are entities? Good? Bad? No idea what this guy was talking about. So, I said, I don't know.

    He's still doing reflexology on my hands, which feels lovely, btw. He says, Why don't you look at them. Close your eyes and tell me what you see.

    It wasn't good. They were black and they looked like eels or flukes. He said, Look deeper.

    I said, They have read eyes.

    He said, Look deeper.

    I said, They're scared.

    He said, Do you want those there?

    God, no.

    So, he helped me construct my own visualization to remove them. The major elements were all mine. I saw a bridge and some big birds came to remove these things one at a time, carried them out over the bridge to... I don't know... somewhere big birds know to take ugly flukes with red eyes.

    Towards the end of this thing, I was down to my last fluke-like thing, I panicked. I didn't say anything, but inside I thought, I don't even know this guy. For all I know I need these ugly these things. So at the end it got a little blurry and I felt that one had been left behind.

    -- to be cont --

  27. -- reiki cont --

    So, my boss and her friend came back to the store. We all started chatting. She said, So did he try to heal you?

    We talked about healing for a while. They explained that they were both studying with Robert Jaffe. I talked about some of what I was studying and I mentioned, almost as an afterthought, that I had a level 1 reiki cert. Her eyes got like saucers. You're a reiki?!

    I said, Ya know. I did the level 1. I don't really feel like I learned much. Never went back.

    He says, I knew you were reiki the minute I saw you. Know how? Your eyes. You're not a reiki anymore. That's what we just removed.

    I was stunned. I didn't know what to think. I thought maybe it was overstepping just a little to remove something I'd paid for, but you, he didn't really remove it. I did. And I saw it. It wasn't good.

    So she shared her story. She had been a reiki master. She said at a certain point, it was blocking her expansion. She described it as being like a kind of cap on her head that she couldn't get past.

    Robert Jaffe, they explained, trained his students to remove it. He said it was Satanic. I think that might be overstating it, but his construct is his construct. Bottom line. I did not like what I saw.

    When I talked about what I'd seen, she said that when they helped people remove these things, many, many people saw red eyes. Sometimes, just a giant red eye.

    What I found funny about that was that I had just recently been to a party with a lot of reiki people. The woman who had gotten me into the class did a big Halloween party every year. It was the second year I'd gone. And by big I mean, they rented out a Hotel conference room big. I hadn't seen her in a while. She's a lovely, lovely woman. Warm, bubbly, authentically happy. And when I saw her at this party, I became concerned about her. She looked angry. She was smiling and laughing but her eyes looked angry and red to me. I just figured she was going through stuff. But what she was going through, I now realized, was more reiki training. It does something really fucked up to your eyes. They start to look tired, red, and angry -- particularly the people who are really invested in it. The eyes don't match the face. Never a good sign.

    I also learned later that a lot of people have remarked about this and expressed concern about reiki because the eyes look weird.

    You know after this, so many people who had no idea I'd ever been a reiki or had it removed, remarked that my eyes looked clearer. I got a lot of questions about whether or not I'd changed my diet.

    I hadn't.

    -- to be cont --

  28. -- reiki cont --

    The day after this experience, I began to feel increasingly dreamy and diffused. It began to get uncomfortable and I was having a hard time getting things done.

    After work, I had to stop at Staples to pick some things up. After I got back to the car, I couldn't find my glasses. I only wear glasses to drive so I couldn't imagine why I would have taken them into the store, but I couldn't find them. And I really do need them to read signs and stuff. So I ran back from the parking lot and started banging on the door, because they were closing up. They let me in. They helped me look. No glasses.I went back to the car. They were on the ground next to the driver side door. It was crazy.

    When I got home, I called a friend and explained what was going on. I was a little freaked. I mentioned that I also had no appetite. She said, you're just waaaaaay out of body. You're probably very hungry, you just can't feel it because you're so far out. I ate, I felt a little better, but still really diffused.

    And then it dawned on me. I left that one little bugger there. My one freaky, little fluke-thing that I left as security in case this had been a bad idea. Of course. He'd said that they kept dragging me out of body when they tried to leave. Now there was only one and it must have been more desperate than ever.

    I knew immediately what I needed to do. I drew myself a nice salt bath. I relaxed, and I recreated the scene with the bridge. A big bird came and pulled out that last fluke.

    Aaaaaaaand thunk. I was fully back in my body. It was like that feeling you have when you're dreaming sometimes when you hit the bed with a jolt.

    So, that's my story on how I came to remove the Reiki I attunement from my energy field.

    Oh, one thing this guy said to me that has always stuck with me. When I said to him that I was very confused as to how I could have removed this, being as how I was told that once the attunement was sealed, it couldn't be removed. He said, "That should have been your first clue, LaVaughn. They took your power away."

    Well no duh, huh.

  29. LV, thank you so much for sharing the story. You know, it’s funny how you find something you needed without realizing… I know I sound confusing, what I meant is that your story came to me at the exact time I needed it and I thank you so much :) I can see similarities in the way we both started with it :) The main reason I started with reiki is that I wanted to work on myself and I wanted to clear all the traumas I’ve been through that left a mark - when I escaped from it at 25 I was left with typical symptoms of ptsd and had anxiety attacks. It’s a long story but the point is – I was so determined to clear my old non-functioning paradigms that I took the opportunity with reiki not really questioning my teacher. Now, ever since I can remember I was interested in “different” things and I felt that “spiritual” work is my path. And since my teacher and the girl who introduced me to it was my first real life experience with people on the same wavelength as me, I put my trust into them without questioning. Because, how can someone who is so knowledgeable and so “spiritual” can be superficial, greedy, power hungry or anything really that someone with less “perspective” is more prone to. Of course I was told I am an old soul, I was told I am supposed to do it because it will help me immensely and of course, it will cost me $$ I was really poor at the time and when I said that the response was “you’ll find a way (to get the money)”. And I did. Now, in all fairness my teacher had a different approach and she worked with me. But during 1st attunement she never explained what she was doing and I was told to close my eyes. She never told me much, relying on my intuition that I will pick it up. Which I’m all in for, but reiki specifically follows certain…how to put it…structure? And you need someone to “put it on paper”. I had such high expectations to which my friend told me I have a “Hollywood view on esoteric stuff”. After a year or so, I got my 2nd attunement and then I learned how to “open” it which she never told me during 1st attunement that made me think, okay, then that 21 days period of cleansing I did was never done properly. Now, the thing that always bothered me is that I’ve been explained that basically being a natural healer is almost a bad thing since you use your own energy and reiki is much better since you are a conduit for universal energy. Here’s to the separation.


  30. All in all I finished my 2nd attunement and afterwards started working on some talismans, it was basically connected with cabbalah (not the “new” one). Further I went I realized I’m not getting even the basic answers and I realized that I know more things and that I’m more in tune so to speak, than my teacher was. During those years we became friends despite the age difference. And it took me a while before I realized that I’m being used (I even lend her money that she never gave back) and she taught me all she could and that I’m just not able to grow if I continue that path with her as my teacher. Now when I write abt it, it looks so easy but it was really devastating because I felt so betrayed that I cannot even explain it. But I think you know how that must feel. Actually the only times I used reiki was during my connection with her, i.e. when I was doing my “homework”. And after all of that ended I never felt an urge of my own to use it ever again. And the experience was so off-putting that I even stopped reading or dealing with things that are “esoterically”. I was just so fed up. I stopped using and eventually got rid of Crowley tarot I’ve been using, I stopped using pendulum (for which I discovered by accident that I have “gift” for). It felt as much longer but that stage lasted for only 2 years or so. And since end of 2011 I started reading and researching more in what I was interested in. But I never felt like using reiki, I can honestly say that I almost forgot I “had” it. These days I’m more into relying on myself for teachings and …how to put it…. I follow more of angelic (and Arch-angelic) guidance.. I mean, I find it easier to connect with that, especially since around 1,5 years ago I had a very special dream that kind of opened that door for me. And what I’ve been told in a dream (by an Archangel) is that “I have the ability to understand the language of angles”. And a thought that just came to me after reading your pt2 is that perhaps I can utilize them for removal. And as for eyes, my teacher has really strange eyes…. I’m currently on vacation and I do a bit more meditation (I’m lazy) and I started exercising and the other day a thought occurred to me, I could pick up a book I have on reiki but never read it and I could practice it. I got out of my bed, picked a book from the shelve and put it on the table as a reminder. Before I even got back to my bed a voice in my head was basically shouting to put that book back and forget about it.
    And my experience and story is perhaps explaining why I “question” Teal. Actually I haven’t’ told this story to many people and I do apologize for babbling so much. As I said I enjoy reading what you all write but I’m usually commenting in my head :))) and I forget to put it on paper :)

  31. Yes, I remember that line as well "no matter if you use it or not, it stays with you forever, you don't even need to "believe" to use it"

  32. Irena, I really came to feel like this whole new age arena is fraught with peril. I've had some really bad experiences and some really bad teachers. In my case, the Reiki Master, I think, was very sincere. Not a bad person at all. I just didn't like the reiki thing itself.

  33. I guess it's so easy to lose yourself in all of that... And you let your guard down and blindly believe that surely everyone in that new age arena (I like that expression) must have good intentions and surely they have greater good in mind. I suppose this is the arena where, more than everywhere else, you learn from your experiences never to turn your back to yourself, and to always trust yourself first and what resonates with you.. And that would mean not putting anyone on pedestal. But those are the exact things Teal feeds off. At first I was intrigued by her, but her as a human being not a teacher/guru personality. And yes, at first I thought she was really pretty. But today after some time I clicked on her video and I thought "when did she became so unattractive?" I guess the thing is, when you become aware of what is beyond someone's physical appearance and you see them as they really are, no matter how physically appealing they may be, that is all gone when you become aware of what's inside them.... But that's just me babbling :))

  34. LV, thanks for your story.

    the way I relate to the story and to everything really is that we have belief structures and they operate.

    If a person has taken on the understanding that there are "outside" forces, this will operate and we have all been programmed IMo tangentially at least to see "outside" forces.

    IMo people like our poster child Teal continue this tradition and she obviously believes it herself.

    Lately I have been studying Robert Anton Wilson/Tim Leary/Antero Alli's evolutionary map and individual take on the model of the 8 circuit brain. It implies to me that early on we are imprinted by information. later we may actally shock ourselves out of imprinting by new information. IMO it is actually evolutionary to be disappointed by all we have placed our beliefs in.

    I have noticed many saying that we may break all agreements with vows and pledges and that this is importnat and I like this idea that maybe I once had an agreemnet that something outside me was able to do something then disagreed and took my own power back.

    We in concert with our "whole" huge and amazing multidimensional organism are power and we are the cause is IMO my belief. What we do with that even means we can have the power to be dis-empowered.

    There is a huge backlash now about new age but the angle decried was "just the old repackaged" IMO. We change out God and the Devil for a new set of characters IMO or add layers of hierarchy and it is the same belief.

    I appreciate the way Reiki is just another "power over" ideation. We are signed in to secret schools by agreement. Eventually we must be disillusioned IMO. It is all for the progress IMO of the evolving being-ness that is intrinsic to the power of the human being.

  35. Just a couple things to add: My major issue with the reiki attunements is that they implant the idea of separation using these symbols. Most energy healing forms use the idea of drawing energy in and directing it into the body. I don't work that way. I was trained by a Mystic, but I don't think it's intrinsically bad. We are always in a dichotometric experience, seeing ourselves as separate from each other and from God, as we define God. We see ourselves as going out of body, when actually we're just expanding our awareness and perceiving things from a different focal point within the whole. But knowing that all is oneness is to experience all this as a paradox. The problem with Reiki, as I see it, is that it places energetic implants that represent duality. It seems to actually limit expansion and interfere with our capacity to experience conscious oneness. And it seems to make our eyes look funny.

    I also think it's kind of interesting that this channeler told me the symbols in the major reiki tradition, that's spread all over the world, are reversed. I thought it was kind of funny that when I searched out that symbol this morning, the first thing that came up was that post by someone who flips the symbol 'round and finds it more effective. I could see why they might.

  36. Maggie, you're right that there's a huge backlash against the new age thing, and in some ways I find it kind of silly. I also think people are throwing out the baby with the bathwater. "New Age" is a marketing category, not a belief system. It's a catch-all term. There is really no such thing as thing as new age beliefs. There are various belief systems, old and new, that came into popularity in the 80s and 90s under the very broad label of new age. I know. I worked in publishing and handled many New Age titles.

    Some of it is good. Some of it is bad. Some of it is disastrous. But some of that material has also led to deeply transformational experiences, at least for me. I also learned that discernment matters. A lot.

    I don't know a lot about Robert Anton Wilson, but I read recently that he really took the piss out of Carl Sagan and it amused the hell out of me. I have thin tolerance for Sagan.

  37. R.A.W.'s Cosmic Trigger I is one of my most favorite books.


    The reason for my love of that one book is that I saw something about the power of attention. When a human is focused in any direction, like to the number "23", the more intense the focus, the MORE that number will appear and more and more "impossible" scenarios around that number will that one discover.

    In Cosmic Trigger, I realized that this is quite important because we can literally make appear to us anything we consider "important".

    "As with most numerological claims, the enigma can be viewed as an example of apophenia, selection bias, and confirmation bias. In interviews, Wilson acknowledged the self-fulfilling nature of the enigma, implying that the real value of the Laws of Fives and Twenty-threes lies in their demonstration of the mind's power to perceive "truth" in nearly anything.

    When you start looking for something you tend to find it."

    This is IMO incredibly profound because IMO this bias means to me that we cannot take our belief filtered perception out of our "reality tunnel".

    R,A.W. said about the investigation he made:
    "Briefly, the main thing I learned in my experiments is that "reality" is always plural and mutable."

    This is profound to me. It encourages me to be compassionate concerning others "realities". Plurality is threatened by authoritarian imposition of "belief". The whole experience of life might be much more free than as if it was "real because it exists independently". However we are mightily conditioned unless you question deep down. IMO that is what Jessica and the EOF are promoting.

    Howver, my woowoo inclination is to take the idea that IF my perceptions are a result of beliefs, I could also program in some very inetresting beliefs that might be fabulous and see from there? So, I am wondring "how many impossible "things" can I believe and see REALLY.

    I am sort of acknowledging that dismantling is first by questioning even the above idea. Thinking becomes quite "I do not know".

    The dismantling of my deep imbedded belief systems is fascinating, infuriating and humbling, thrilling, dismaying and rejuvenating.

  38. FYI, in case you missed it, I've updated the text in this blog post to reflect Blake's response to the Jason Freedman question.

  39. One of the down sides to fame is that people care enough about "you" to wonder about your sock puppets.

    "Examples of sockpuppetry

    Business promotion
    In 2007, the CEO of Whole Foods, John Mackey, was discovered to have posted as "Rahodeb" on the Yahoo Finance Message Board, extolling his own company and predicting a dire future for its rival, Wild Oats Markets, while concealing his relationship to both companies. Whole Foods argued that nothing that Mackey did broke the law.

    During the 2007 trial of Conrad Black, chief executive of Hollinger International, prosecutors alleged that he had posted messages on a Yahoo Finance chat room using the name "nspector", attacking short sellers and blaming them for his company's stock performance. Prosecutors provided evidence of these postings in Black's criminal trial where he was convicted of mail fraud and obstruction. The postings were raised at multiple points in the trial.

    Book and film reviews
    An Amazon.com computer glitch in 2004 revealed the names of many authors who had written reviews of their books using pseudonyms. John Rechy, who wrote the best-selling 1963 novel City of Night, was one of the more famous authors unmasked in this way, and was shown to have written numerous five-star reviews of his own work.[6] In 2010, historian Orlando Figes was found to have written Amazon reviews under the names "orlando-birkbeck" and "historian", praising his own books and condemning those of fellow historians Rachel Polonsky and Robert Service. The two sued Figes and won monetary damages.[26][27] During a panel in 2012, UK fiction writer Stephen Leather admitted using pseudonyms to praise his own books, claiming that "everyone does it". He spoke of building a "network of characters", some operated by his friends, who discussed his books and had conversations with him directly.[28]

    David Manning was a fictitious film critic, created by a marketing executive working for Sony Corporation to give consistently good reviews for releases from Sony subsidiary Columbia Pictures, which could then be quoted in promotional material.[29]

    Blog commentary
    American reporter Michael Hiltzik was temporarily suspended from posting to his blog, "The Golden State," on the Los Angeles Times after he admitted "posting there, as well as on other sites, under false names." He used the pseudonyms to attack conservatives such as Hugh Hewitt and L.A. prosecutor Patrick Frey—who eventually exposed him. Hiltzik's blog at the LA Times was the newspaper's first blog. While suspended from blogging, Hiltzik continued to write regularly for the newspaper.

    Lee Siegel, a writer for The New Republic magazine, was suspended for defending his articles and blog comments under the user name "Sprezzatura." In one such comment, "Sprezzatura" defended Siegel's bad reviews of Jon Stewart: "Siegel is brave, brilliant and wittier than Stewart will ever be." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29

  40. Wow. It sure was a lucky day for me when me2yesu posted that link to Cosmic Trigger. (Funny how similar the terms 'spiritual catalyst' and 'cosmic trigger' are.)

    I have never read any of RAW's work, but I fell in love with him instantly when I found my feelings about Teal's fans expressed so perfectly with these words of his: "The totally convinced and the totally stupid have too much in common for the resemblance to be accidental".

    I really wanted to read something of his but couldn't decide what, so it just got put on the back burner of my life until this link got delivered right into my inbox, as though the cosmic manager of the universe had heard me scuffling around muttering while looking for the book I wanted, and knowing my heart and mind, had said "Ah, I've got just the thing for you" and then you volunteered to be the cosmic messanger, hahahaha!

    Plus, I love that Timothy Leary and Alan Watts, 2 long time heroes of mine, were personal friends of his!

    And then there's Aleister Crowley, another long time hero of mine. Fallen hero actually, but that's another story. He was a fascinating character and such a mystic. I used his tarot deck for years. There is outstanding evidence that LRonHubbard used Crowley's work to create Scientology.

    This interview with RAW clearly indicates that he has studied Crowley too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt8TZ0hYHiE

    Anyway, I'm REALLY enjoying this read, so thank you me2yesu!

  41. PS: And very interesting information on 'sock puppets' too.

  42. Zigzag, I can't even remember if we discussed this before. I'm losing track of the 3,000+ comments. But did you see this thing on LRH? I love Harlan Ellison and it just cracked me up.


  43. Regarding the socks, very interesting. If, in fact, that is Blake, it's extremely unethical, for reasons discussed. As to the legal ramifications, I don't know. But he's an officer in a company and it definitely raises concerns. I hadn't heard about the thing with Whole Foods. I'm sure his Libertarian self thinks it's all good. Stupid laws, restricting a man's right to build his business with sock puppetry.

    I love Whole Foods, too. And I've had many friends who've worked there through the years. It's a great place to work. His people are paid well, they're moved about to maximize job satisfaction, and they have a lot of fun. If all non-union supermarkets were that concerned with employee well-being, life would be grand. But it just ain't so.

  44. You know how when you put random things in search engines something comes up.

    YEP...the Raw enigmachine of meaning generation....

    Youtube "Blake sock puppet" led me to ........


  45. The link explains itself


    ...and i didn't talk about giving the illusion of standing nacked in front of an optical illusion background.

    Tealussion at its best.

  46. After watching this video, there is no doubt in my mind, that Tealusion will be a big success based on people who love a singledualtriplequadpentahexaheptaoctanonadeca mind fuck every saturday with a cup of tea for about 30 min.

    I am totally speechless.

    I am actually in shock.

    And I can't put my finger on it.


    Can somebody name the method?

    Cheers to all the people who are hypnotized on a weekly base.

    MIND YOURSELF for sanity. <3

  47. i don't like if sb fucks with my mind. Excuse my language but this was an insult towards my intelligence. I think I will stop watching "Keeping up with Tealusion" as I should stop insulting my own intelligence. She is a player - hardcore player. She would stop at nothing!

  48. http://tinyurl.com/afterwatchingaskteal

  49. Cheers
    Good nite

    Trying to figure out Teal is like a hopeless try to grasp an eel.
    I am ready for a new hobby and will sign up for a potter class.
    Oh this reminds me of a past thought from 2 weeks ago:

    Teal and Harry Potter Brand have more in common than you will ever fully understand. He was and she will be a huge success because people are addicted to pre digested magic. Now: before all you HP fans get on me.... Harry Barry Potter was the greatest pollution of childhood-fairytale-programming in our century. I still can't grasp what exactly the drug was....as I am probably immune or to use teal terms: "Probably because i am constantly high on magic". How can you not...all you need to do, is to look at the night sky and be ok with not receiving an answer from the stars. Magic doesn't need answers as there is no perception of a fucking problem...just state of awe.

    Circle is closing. That was my final thought with some hick ups along the way ( :

  50. My final result of the tealish analysis:

    Teal is a magician.

    The bottom line is:
    that I only accept nature as my entertaining magician. All human magicians have a strange agenda.

    My realization:






    Now ask yourself:
    WHO OR WHAT and if at all, is your spiritual catalyst?

    Adore nature
    Donate to nature
    love nature
    pay attention to nature
    spend time in nature
    be enchanted by nature
    learn from nature
    never underestimate nature

    forget about Teals and Gods and bla
    Nature follows its own nature
    only cares for balance
    in this process destroys and creates.
    accept it and live it and live with it

    ... and if you ever hear a tree, a rock, a mountain or water telling you: "I want you to do xxx"...

    ----> you are out of your mind.

    ( ;


  51. Wow, GA, that's ghastly. It's like she's having a little chuckle at everyone's expense.

    I know. I'll stand in front of a hypnotic background image, looking like I'm naked, while I talk about how there's no such thing as fraud... there's no such thing as fraud... there's no such thing as fraud... there's no such thing as fraud...

    Gotta disagree on Harry Potter, though. I've read them all. They're actually quite deep. Rowley just happens to be both very knowledgeable about Western Alchemy and very, very deft. They're so genius that most people don't notice that they're genius.

  52. Harlan Ellison may be all that is great and wonderful, but I can't handle his voice. Very enthusiastic guy though. But no, we've never discussed this, although there is no question LRH was a prolific writer.

  53. And PS: regarding 'Anne Whinney', that article with her name on it was published a little more than a week after this facebook page was created: https://www.facebook.com/anne.whinney

    Then there's this: http://www.ancientfaces.com/person/anne-whinney/21480072

    Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but it seems pretty crystal clear to me.

  54. As I am standing against the backdrop of my own mind and naked, I must share.....

    This is the truth today about logorrheancarnation. It is the tendency for those who have extreme loquacity without mendacity to "return to the "scene" of the criminal multiple "times" or may be "multiple lives simultaneous".

    They start as small child preachers whose parents put them up to it. They sound cute and have no clue of "what they say" but get candy for saying it. Yummy sweets increase as the cuteness amplifies.

    Later in increasing addiction, they are caught in the depression of utter BS (Belief they need the System) and build up eventually to Hitlerian proportions. Maybe all logorrhea afflicted who opt this path become Hitler for a time?

    Logorrheancarnation is a dangerous path and is counterbalanced by STFU constraints that humble-ise. This humble contrast is the way of the "wordier" who only increases the "word" as it is sincerely Known within.

    Slow humble steps towards "speak out" seem so stupid to the Logorrheaniac who is these days seen in telemarketing of the big idea, and in marketing of all sacred aspects that hook the populace (who give presents as presents is what the profits seek)......

  55. So Anne Whinney is a creepy old dude? Do you think I should send her a friend request? ;-)

    "Harlan Ellison may be all that is great and wonderful, but I can't handle his voice."

    Many people can't. I've heard stories of people who just couldn't get away from him fast enough at cons and stuff. He's always like that and just exhausting from what I've heard. My husband and I were discussing that maybe that's where it started -- that whole penny a word thing. He started to talk the way he he had a to write in order to support himself. When Robin Williams can't get a word in, something's up. (That's much sadder now than when I first watched that vid a month or two ago.)

    It's fascinating, though. Lotta history crammed into that 7 minutes.

  56. Ilostmyaccount, congrats on your move! Mmmm, fresh eggs -jealous of your dogs! I just discovered two pigeon eggs on my balcony, btw. Damn pigeons.These fuckers are so noisy and shit too much. Way tooo much!!! Guess, it's
    "Nature follows its own nature
    only cares for balance
    in this process destroys and creates.
    accept it and live it and live with it"

    I cannot accept and live with this nature problem. It's MY balcony!It's official, I am declaring war.

  57. As per ancientfaces.com, someone with my first and last name died in Bronx in 1997, aged 91. Was weird to see the black ribboned obituary in my name (which is not that common), popping in the images if I google myself, right there next to my photo.

  58. "So Anne Whinney is a creepy old dude? Do you think I should send her a friend request? ;-)"

    Hahahaha... yes I do! I wonder if Blake would add you to his friends list in his incarnation as anne whinney?

    And Elena, if teal & company had chosen your name to use for their 'teal is the most wonderful thing to ever grace the face of this planet' article then it is unlikely you would be able to convince me that it wasn't you who wrote it! I was relieved to see that I'm not dead yet, hehehe.

  59. I think the bigger question is, would Blake add me to his friends list in his incarnation as Blake... I'm kidding. That's not a real question. He hasn't blocked me, though -- at least not yet. But teal has. What she thought she would accomplish by doing so I have no idea.

    I've never encountered anyone with my name, first and last I mean. I have come across a few with my first name. First Lady and all that.

  60. LaVaughn: At first I wondered why Robin Williams' photo was there if that guy was the only one talking (at 100 nerve wracking miles per hour). Then I heard Robin trying to get a word in and Harlan just kept plowing along right over him, although I have to give him credit for hearing and acknowledging Robin's comments, even though he talked right through them.

    But yeah, a lot of history there. When I was a scientologist I listened to hours and hours and hours of LRH tapes and read millions and millions of his words and he often recounted stories from his early 'penny per word' writing days.

    But of all his stuff I ever read, this bit from the log of the 32 foot vessel called 'Magician' which he sailed to Alaska, is my favorite: http://legacyimgs.lronhubbard.org/yachtsmn/maglog.htm

    And one of my favorite bits from that is: "We set sail again for the wind had once more dropped. It seemed so calm, so easy, so gentle. Georgia lured us on like a lady and then scratched out our eyes like a bitch." Hahahaha! ('Georgia' refers to the Georgia Basin, which is a series of interconnected straits, sounds and inlets.)

  61. Speaking of the lovely Anne Whinney, check out the comments on her article. That Alex D, who thinks teal is a Bodhisattva, also has Blake's face for some reason.


  62. What a circus. It's embarassing even to read this article along with those 5 suspiciously timed comments.

  63. And there's more. On the other version of Anne Whinney's "article" there are tons of comments and some of the names are familiar. That PHD [sic] William Macey is there and he and Blake enjoy a little chin wag.


  64. LV said:

    "And there's more. On the other version of Anne Whinney's "article" there are tons of comments and some of the names are familiar."

    I read before that she was involved in murders by luring children to be sacrificed. IF she had evidence as stated by Blake, isn't she in some way an accessory to these crimes?

    "And giving them human teeth which she still had from one of the sacrifices she was forced to attend. I have seen her heal to an extent that no one could possibly understand."

    When it gets down to it, isn't she OBLIGATED legally (not just ethically or morally or whatever) for her part in murder? There are plenty of cases where people were prosecutes even when they were being manipulated and when they were juveniles. Isn't murder a crime with no statute of limitations or excuses and not in her hands to dismiss because it is a crime against the state? How if this is TRUE was she not prosecuted or made to bring the ones who murdered to justice?

    SO this story from Blake who saw teeth is just icing on the cake IMO that she is liar.

    This consideration of murders committed is a serious question IMO. She need to recant or be held accountable IMO. This aspect of the Eucharist lady and cohorts's mind bending is what disgusts me deeply. Maggie

  65. Maggie,

    This is as much as I've been able to piece together from the sloppy narrative scattered hither and yon around the web.

    When she was in therapy, because therapists are mandated reporters of child abuse, she had to report the whole thing to the police.


    No charges have been filed to date.


    There was a Satanic Panic in Utah and there were people prosecuted based on victim testimony. Then much of it was well enough discredited that people were exonerated and some therapists faced charges for creating false memory in patients.


  66. I had never read the comments in the "real" news column. I saw Jason there (and called out Too), plus Blake as Sundyer.... I also saw this from poster named "Curry"

    " Posts: 109

    Agree that the author was flippant, especially toward the end.

    But this sounds like a very sad case to me. The timing of Scott's revelations seem suspiciously tied to the timing of her book release.

    The facts simply do not bear out her story. Children were being burned somewhere in Cache Valley? And there was no search for these missing children? If Scott was "hiding for 5 years" in Park City, why was she trying out for the Telemark team? It was fairly well publicized - by Scott herself. And why did she have a website (a somewhat questionable website) that gave her location and pretty extensive detail about herself? Who was terrified of her in Cache Valley because of her gifts? Her description maybe matches Colorado City, but not Logan - and I know many, many people who know the family and no one has ever mentioned that anyone was ever terrifed at her supposed gifts. They were very concerned about her mental health and well being, but not her extrasensory powers. Did you all know about this? Were you terrified? Her manner at the time was not that of a subdued victim - it was, in fact, the opposite.

    The story also doesn't square with the simple facts of her life - the family spent the summers in the mountains together. For years. Did her torturer give her three months off? And year-long vacations? And a sabbatical from brainwashing for a trip to China? This seems highly unlikely to me.

    I do not doubt the existence of satanic cults - they are documented. I do not doubt that Ms. Scott is disturbed and has had something abusive in her past and I am honestly sorry for that. But by fabricating a tale that includes virtually every possible form of abuse (beyond Elizabeth Smart's horrific experience) Ms. Scott not only completely stretches the limits of credibility for herself - but for victims of real abuse as well. "

    Yes. It does.

  67. Then there is Forest Ranger several post defense ....Very hot. and more response and I do think MORE sock puppets showing up. Someone might ask why I am again looking at this stuff. I admit I am triggered again....


    "Curry... I am a close friend of the family. I worked with Teal's parents. And my memory of Teal's family is quite different from yours of the family. From my memory, they would leave Teal unattended OFTEN. And from my memory often when I stopped by the cabin for a visit to talk about work, Teal would have stayed down in the valley for the weekend attended by this man. I remember her relationship with this man in question. I was personally present for an occasion when he brought her back from riding horses totally drenched in blood from a bloody nose. He of course said she had been thrown off the horse. But It seemed weird to me at the time and now, my suspicions are confirmed. And that aside, I have personally walked in on seances in Logan canyon. Not only did the forest service have to change their policy based on this issue mandating that rangers could not go out alone after sunset, but Teal's parents actually believe Teal. Teal's mother has been in TEARS to me about it. They do not deny it happened so what gives you the right to deny it? They took Teal to China as a last ditch effort to try to keep her from committing suicide because according to her mother, none of the "Western" psychologists and psychiatrists they took her to could give them a solution. Also according to Teal's own mother, they suspected abuse all along but they kept trying to pin it on Teal's father, so the family kept pulling her out of therapy. Did you live with the family personally? Because things are not always what they seem. I for one, having known them intimately, completely and totally believe this story. "

  68. Huh, I didn't know Michelle Obama's full name, LaVaughn.

    Speaking of the names and fantasy tales, I just picked up this book left by someone in the resort, called " The Great Tree of Avalon" by T.A. Barron. Will give it a try.

  69. I've just learned about "liar paradox" from one of LaVaughn's's older articles. I think it can be sort of applied to Teal's latest mindfuck as per GA (and eyesight fuck i might add) video on false but also true prophets.

  70. "The liar paradox is occasionally used in fiction to shut down artificial intelligences, who are presented as being unable to process the sentence. In Star Trek: The Original Series episode 1, Mudd, the liar paradox is used by the characters of Captain Kirk and Spock to confuse and ultimately disable an android. In the 1973 Doctor Who serial The Green Death, the Doctor temporarily stumps the insane computer BOSS by asking it "If I were to tell you that the next thing I say would be true, but the last thing I said was a lie, would you believe me?" However BOSS eventually decides the question is irrelevant and summons security."


  71. Hi Elena,
    I was entangled again in Teal's justifictaion for a lie being the basis of her truth (and I am concerned it is) in just looking at the blurb of the video....

    "A false prophet is one who falsely claims the gift of prophecy or divine inspiration or who uses that gift for evil ends. Here in we run into our first problem, often someone who is considered a "true prophet " by some people is simultaneously considered a "false prophet" by others. I am no exception to this rule. In fact there are people who think that my stance on this particular subject is just more proof that I, myself am a false prophet. So what exactly is my stance on false prophets? There is no such thing as a false prophet."

    In the groups I am a part of looking in on, she is getting thumbs up and replay there of this False Prophet video.

    I do not believe that prophecy is anything more than a revelation of the energy of a situation at a given moment. Aprophet may be able to read a collective field of info and may tell that prediction but everything IMO is malleable and a future event cannot be predicted with accuracy.

    her use of "prophet"seems that she is saying HER information changes but does not mean that at the time it was false. But the issue that I have with her information is not "what she says exactly" but the intention of her information.

    A concept of herself as an advanced avatar crafting an outrageous story, claims from sock puppets of her "gifts", the way she seeks "followers" to be controled, the whole issue of her blatant seduction techniques and the fact that she DEPENDs that people will take her seriously because of her INTENTIONS
    1. Story line to exalt herself and undermine the reality of others who are "just normal suffering people"
    2. Seduction techniques that hook the unconscious including blatant appeal to sexual allure, addiction to the horrific with a focus on terror and pain (appeal to primitive drives)
    3. Management of criticism by suppressing questions
    4. Stealing others information (when not credited) ad saying it came from her

    All these have nothing to do with her ability (or not) to convey information. IMO all her Information is filtered through a lying scheming marketeering usary of people to feed an insatiable need for attention.

    This is not wherher she upgrades but her INTENTION. It has nothing IMO to do with the paradox that information can be true and not true at the same time. It is about manipulation of the mind. She is just another participant in the realm of employing deceit for profit.

    This use of people for profit pushes my buttons and means to me that all the concepts of trust-worthy intention, care for the wellbeing of others and kind willingness to place the wellbeing ahead of power concern are IMPORTANT

  72. I love Alejandro Jodorowsky and I am going to see his new film It is about the trivialization of "one's mythic reality" that beyond the manipulation of Teal I recognize. If we have our own journey, I see it needs to be transcending the "commercial" . I guess I see that galls me in Teal.

    A genius, a "prophet" of the imagineering we may employ for the benefit of self understanding is not stooping to try to convince we LONE are special but enhances the understanding of being beautifully HUMAN IMO.

    The Dance of Reality by Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "The Dance of Reality is one of the most anticipated titles premiering at SXSW this year. Produced and directed by Alejandro Jodorowsky, it is his first film in 23 years.

    The legendary filmmaker was born in 1929 in Tocopilla, a coastal town on the edge of the Chilean desert, where this film was shot. It was there that Jodorowsky underwent an unhappy and alienated childhood as part of an uprooted family.

    Blending his personal history with metaphor, mythology and poetry, The Dance of Reality reflects Jodorowsky's philosophy that reality is not objective but rather a "dance" created by our own imaginations."


    The appropriate use of a "seers" mind to see oneself. If one is able to do so mythically, one stands apart from "history" and may reshape OUR own experience. IMO the catch that Teal owns that originally grabed my heel was her outrageoous claims.

    JUST LIKE US ALL, she is able to create myth. IMO if she just took her own material and made a "movie or fantasy" to just share what she learns, she would be a different kind of being...maybe helpful?


    "If you use the tarot to see the future, you become a conman, a charlatan. For me the tarot was something more serious. It was a deep psychological search. When you see the tarot, you see that chance exists, that synchronicity exists, everything is linked. When you deeply enter that dimension that i call the dance of reality the world dances around you and gives you what you seek. We need something to help us pass on to another dimension. The creation of an androgynous thought that leads to a superior mind. When you are linked to everyone there are no enemies. - See more at: http://disinfo.com/tag/alejandro-jodorowsky/#sthash.BdR81ilk.dpuf

  73. Great minds and all that, Elena. My husband I suffered through that 18 minute mindscape from hell yesterday, and he said the same thing: liar's paradox.

    Much of what she does seems calculated to confuse and overwhelm.

    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." ~ Voltaire

  74. I like that quote on tarot, Maggie. When I used tarot, I used Motherpeace, which is articulated more as self-examination than as "fortune telling." I learned a lot about myself reading those cards. I also used them early on in my career as a reader, but rather quickly outgrew the use of reflectors. I found they actually slowed me down and were kind of limiting. But they're a great jumping off point. What did leave me gobsmacked, more than once, though, was how predictive they could be. One of the biggest life changes I ever faced, I saw in the cards beforehand, and I couldn't make heads or tails of it at the time. It was completely incongruous with the rest of the spread. Then I got some news and I was like, Ohhhhhhh..... Bloody hell.

  75. From what you said, it seems that you did what i have heard we do: we can enter the liminal and cross a "threshold" where we do see "something" for ourselves or others.

    Every single teacher I ever really valued said you cannot "make this happen". This is why MAYBE people do have moments but become charlatans in trying to force the unforce-able???

    Again we come to the liars who in trying to apply the sacred commercially just well...we know what they do. Sad on em.

    I met a teacher who said when she studied an ancient Mayan healing art with a curandera in Mexico, if needed they would teleport. They were primarily focused on mothers and babies. WHEN a mother or a child was in crisis, they were THERE. It was the need that unlocked the capacity. Otherwise they walked.

    I know this person to have introduced the healing base here by permission of that lineage. yes, i paid for the teacing. I did see it changed my reality yes and now I see electric "blue flashes" as evididence of some strange singularity.

    Then what does this teacher (Starr Fuentes) do? Charge $10,000 per healing session for cancer. She became a very ugly woman with an abusive and mean presence. IMO, she failed. Her use of a "gift" that the Universe could offer for benefit wasapplied nastily as scarcity based..

  76. "This is why MAYBE people do have moments but become charlatans in trying to force the unforce-able"

    I think this is very true. I know when I read, I put myself in a receptive state. I don't control anything, because you really can't. That said, not uncommon to see future things, I just won't call them "the future." There are potentials, and sometimes they come in multiples. The future is a highly mutable landscape, in my experience.

    As I've said many times, if a psychic were telling you a fixed future, that you could do nothing about, why bother? What would be the point in knowing if you couldn't make choices about it?

  77. I think the monetary question is a very complex one and it's something I've addressed many times. I think there's a point at which it can be egregious, like charging thousands of dollars to cure cancer. It's an outrageous claim and an outrageous price. Needless to say, if the cancer remains uncured, that person has now exposed themselves to some rather serious legal consequences.

    That said, I believe all our gifts and talents come from God. I can't think of one that doesn't. And we all deserve to be compensated for our work and our time. In our culture that means money. In indigenous cultures that means barter and shamans are paid with food and other local commodities. In fact, in many indigenous cultures to not provide some kind of exchange of energy with the practitioner and with the spirit world is seen as life out of balance. For all things there should sacrifice, as in, to make sacred.

  78. You are touching a deep consideration and I don't think there is an easy answer about "what is the needed exchange" and where is it directed.

    This is my vision: I have NOW accessed the complete source connection so that as Bashar calls it, "Abundance is being able to do what you need to do when you need to do it".

    I now depend on my own inner connection and relationship to this INEFFABLE, not any one worldly source for this abundance. The question is "what do I have to offer?" and "what do I need?" and leaving it up to a larger consciousness to whom I am completely at service.

    I know we may disagree but when I look at the disagreement, I see it as contexts. In the context of the mundane world, it is perfectly reasonable that a direct exchange occur.

    But IF we can begin operating (as opposed to thinking) from a larger context, IMO, that is where the seeming miraculous flow is a mundane.

    IMO we are NOT meant to be impoverished in any way as we share freelu the individual genius. We are not products, serfs, slaves of some system EXCEPT that in the obvious use of our alliegance and reliance we have become self sentencing.

    THAT is the reason that personally I embrace there is truth and what I am able to use of it is my own life journey. I have paid for books, seminars, sessions and all kinds of toys, gadgets. appliances, plus all the daily needs like housing and such through a steady "income"as an RN.

    In times past it seemed my offering and the return was a good match and I felt good about it. But now I am wondering about a brand new and unheard of in my own history nonlinear relationship to nourishment given and received (as money is like the sign...will work for food but a step removed).

    I totally have an interest in meta PHYSICAL. I.E. DOES a body of info actually work in the high light of what I value??? Personally I think looking for money out of the body of miracles is "what stops miracles". I don't think it encourages more miracles to try to make them appear at will. It seems too hard edged with usary to me to be affordable only to those with paychecks or a trust fund.

    IMO it is possible that as we are the source of expression on earth of something so inexplicable, we must have some common translations to see???, it just needs conscious directing of our ENERGY to the miracle factory (that we do not control make or even service ourselves). This is where I am exploring when I am not obsessing about Teal.

    If A horse don't ride and A dog don't hunt, put it out to pasture. But IF the cart has wheel and a great big engine...VAROOOMMM

  79. And there were so many atrocious absurdities packed into that short vid...was it always so... or is it because I had quite a break from this "ask" series? But some things were said that are really rather chilling...what's even more alarming is how many people don't notice anything wrong...right, there is no such thing as "wrong" in this universe.

    "Much of what she does seems calculated to confuse and overwhelm."

    Ohhhh. It can drive one insane. Think Munch's painting "The Scream" kind of reaction...

    Or smth like this


  80. It's hard to say, Elena, but it does all seem to be getting darker. This was really chilling.


  81. eyesight fuck - agreed, Elena :D

    She will confuse the s***t out of lazy thinkers who follow her.

    I think I figured finally how she comes up with such a mess: as we know, Teal is the first spiritual catalyst who tests common self therapies on herself and shares is with the public. She uses the Byron Katie turn around method for all the "harsh criticism" she is receiving and puts out the new turn around version in her video series…whenever it gets too hot or too viral. her prophet video is the result of her sitting down and doing a worksheet on herself and turns everything "negative" around.

    this video addresses three often talked about criticism about Teal

    Teal spell/maniputlation
    Teal is backed again
    Teal made the shit all up aka false prophet

    Now we see miss teal in front of commonly known visual manipulation background, even more nacked than ever :D talking about that there are no false prophets. At the same time already addressing the critical feedback she will get for this mnd and eyesight fuck and laughing her ass of.

    So far 14000 people watched it, 614 enjoyed the fuck and 25 were sratching their heads really really hard.

    my brain uses hundreds of algorithm to make some sense out of it and totally fails.


    ok LV I am used to be a loner in regards to my H Potter-generation-pollution. Bloody Potter Spell - as efficient as the Teal spell.


    ok my hens lay too many eggs. I am drowning in eggs. Help. I should play the "False Prophet" video to them tomorrow. Even a chicken will not overlook a fox in action :D …

  82. But GA, in the Byron Katie turn around, it's supposed to be that what you believe others are doing is what you do to others . So, I hear you say Teal is really turning "turn arounds" around.

    I have had too many eggs in the past but was down to only two hens. So I bought some fertile eggs when my one hen who is called Beaky (because she has a twisted beak) became broody. I hoped she'd hatch them all but only two made it.

    This girl is very intelligent. Since she has the beak issue she learned she can come inside and jump on the dining room table and eat dry cat food (to supplement with instant protein). I always leave the screen door ajar for the cats in summer so she didn't actually learn to open the door.

    Beaky is the best and most protective mother. Her chicks are about 6 weeks old and already perch with her in the chicken roost. Beaky wants to teach the chicks to come in and so comes and calls them but they are afraid. With her vigilant protective attitude she goes back out and forgoes her kibbles.

    To boost my flock I just bought 10 girls (Rhode Island Reds and Buff Orpingtons that the feedstore had hatched). They are in a big cage and at night I put a cardboard house inside for them to sleep in until big enough to perch. They will be let out when they are twice as big. Of all of them only one lets me pet her. I sit at the door to the cage and she comes right up.The others are learning but she just knew.

    And this reminded me that once I had a most remarkable Bantum hen who was so intelligent that she did not want to be with the rest of the chickens. She also changed coleors when she moulted in the four years we had her. She stayed in my husbands shop at night.

    I adore chickens. I say they are dinosaurs small.

    I have decided I sincerely desire to stop thinking about Teal. I do tend to be obsessive. I will maybe use my chikens and so whenever I tend to think about how little i appreciate Teal, i will turn it around and think of chickens. I will abuse the meaning of Byron katies turn around too. Why not?

    This will be the process I will GIFT to all unhappy obsessives. You print a picture of the chicken you like best and and meditate on this image until it is clear. Then IF you think of someone you are hoping to stop ruminating on, you make squawking sounds and wave your arms like wings. It will definitely work especially around others as we usually do not want to act chicken in front of people. When alone, it may be less effective so you do this action until you cannot think any longer.

    Goodbye Teal.

  83. I once had a chicken that I called Chicken Little. My son rescued her from a cat and my daughter nursed her back to health... she thought the holes in the side of its head were puncture wounds from the cats teeth and we all thought we had a baby hawk. (We were new to country life.)

    Anyway, she recovered and as she grew we realized we had a chicken and not a hawk. She liked beer and potato chips, and anytime she saw a party going on inside the house she would hop up to the window and ask to be let in. She let me paint her nails bright orange and as she walked around she would periodically stick her foot up in front of her face to admire my handiwork. When I went out for my morning sunbath she would lay on the blanket with me with her wings spread wide open and her tongue hanging out. God I loved that chicken.

  84. I forgot to say that because my daughter didn't know the holes in the side of its head were ears and thought they were puncture wounds from the cats teeth she packed them full of neosporin.

  85. "I adore chickens. I say they are dinosaurs small."

    Bwahahahaha... Oh statements like that make getting out of bed in the morning worthwhile.

    "All I wanted was to eat the chicken that is smarter than other chickens and to absorb its power." ~ Red



  86. Hahahaha, love these chicken posts.

    Oh, btw, LaVaughn, since you eat chicken, you cannot access the higher dimensional frequencies of your consciousness according to Mrs. Swan. It really "decreases your frequency". So, yeah...you might be a fraud, lol, cs what can you see for your clients if you don't have this higher access? Some low vibrational shit, hehe? Your husband must be more intuitive and clairvoyant and all that than you, eh?

  87. I so want to help you, GA!
    I'm gonna go now and really enjoy some grounding and some frequency decreasing activities (http://blog.thespiritualcatalyst.com/grounding/). I hardly ever had any meat in Canada, but here these kebobs are sooo goood, mmm.

  88. ZZB I was cackling!! so funny and hilarious and happy a chick tale.

    I never even heard of Orange is the new Black. Thanks for that.

    I recall the food in Cyprus was delicious. That is the only country I ever visited outside US. I learned about tapas as the way to eat and talk for hours there.

    I will imagine Elena eating amazing food and grounded earthed and floored in absolutely deliciousness.

  89. Hey, Elena, at least I don't eat pork... like that lady doctor with the awesome braids. You know the one. Sarbs and teal had her over for neither pod nor tea to talk about the future of medicine. There was her and the Asian fellow who both said that they could work with a vegetarian diet and they understood that some people are vegetarian because of their beliefs, but that, particularly for people who were ill, not so good. The recommended bone broth.

    Something tells me this interview may not have improved teal's feelings about black people and Asians, but who can say. She seemed to take the whole thing with aplomb.

  90. "You're sure it was a chicken, not a pigeon? What about a quail or a pheasant? Spruce Grouse? American Bald Eagle?"


    And Elena let me know if that book you found is any good. I might have to read the series anyway since volume 6 is called "The Dragon of Avalon" (I was born in the year of the dragon). How fun! I love Merlin!

  91. Orange is the New Black is a lot of fun. I haven't watched the new season yet. Not at the top of my must-view list, which is really quite long. I've also heard the second season isn't quite as edible as the first. But it's probably the best acting I've ever seen from Kate Mulgrew, who I don't ordinarily care for.

  92. Funny you mention bone broth LaVaughn.... I spent most of last night looking for the best recipe for bone broth and searching amazon for a RED crockpot to make it in, hahahaha!

  93. Just a heads up, folks. I've had another report of someone having their Facebook acct hacked. Obviously, no way to prove it's teal related. Could be random. But have an awareness.

  94. Funny, facebook locked me out of my account yesterday or the day before because somebody tried to get in from 'a different location than usual' (something like that anyway). They had me create a new password. I thought it was pretty weird... why would anyone want to hack into my stupid facebook account? It's not like I keep my bank info stored there.

  95. zigzag, what was the location? You can email me that if you're not comfortable posting it here. My email's on my contact page.

  96. And WOW! That's a RED kitchen! I only have splashes of red here and there, and I definitely don't have matching stilettos, although a pair of red, red flip flops would be fun!

  97. There should be a login record on Facebook.

  98. If you're on a computer, rather than a handheld, it's under security -- check "Show Current Session"

    Also if you get email notification, check your email. I know have mine set up to show if there's a new device trying to register.

  99. It only shows where I'm currently logged in from. I didn't get an email notification. I will see if my son can figure it out.

  100. Ok, here it is:

    Checkpoint Flow Started

    Saturday, August 30, 2014 at 2:51pm EDT
    IP Address:
    Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/21.0.1180.89 Safari/537.1
    Cookie: ...fXZb
    Checkpoint Enrolled

    Saturday, August 30, 2014 at 2:51pm EDT
    IP Address:
    Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/21.0.1180.89 Safari/537.1
    Cookie: ...fXZb
    Login checks failed

    Saturday, August 30, 2014 at 2:51pm EDT
    IP Address:
    Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/21.0.1180.89 Safari/537.1
    Cookie: ...fXZb

  101. It's somewhere in Japan. My son couldn't find any immediate confirmation that it was a proxy server but he is still checking.

  102. So this is pretty disgusting. Can't she find a way to say that repressing our shadow can result in illness without pissing all over Jerry Hicks's grave?

    And, seriously, simple rule: Never say never or always. Just don't do it. Because there are exceptions to better rules than the one she's layin' down here.


  103. Wow. You asked me to dig up all that info for you, which I did, and you're just going to ignore all my efforts on your behalf? Not even a 'thanks for nuthin'? You know what? Stick a fork in me, I'm done. Fuck all you obsessed idiots, you all deserve each other, including teal. I'm outta here.

  104. Zigzag, My apologies. I actually wanted the info posted so people could see it for reference, because other people are being hacked and the locations should be tracked. I also thought we were waiting on some other info as to whether or not it was a proxy.

    Sorry you felt ignored. Not my intention. But I did not see your comment until much later the next day and I was busy putting out other fires, totally unrelated to teal. It's been a rough week over here, in the 3D world.

    But, again, my apologies. I should have acknowledged your efforts.

  105. Oh, and now that the issue has been brought to my mind again, the other info we have on a Facebook hacker was Fairfield CA.

  106. LaVaughn, I accept your apology. You handled my tirade with such aplomb that I feel compelled to apologize as well. It has been in the 90's around here with intense humidity... my lush garden is looking like a desert and my 'sanity routines' have suffered a major melt-down as well. This kind of heat awakens the enraged demon that lives inside me, and while I can't say I enjoy being ignored, that demon likes it even less.

    Additionally, I am just so sick and tired of teal and her crowd I can't even stand it. Your commentary here is the last thread connecting me to anything teal related. I have tried to snip that thread numerous times but I love your sarcastic wit so much (as I have said before), that I have not been able to do it. I guess I was trying to get you to do it for me, hahaha. Oh well, maybe I'm not as finished with teal as I thought. :(

  107. And regarding that video you posted the link to, I suffered through it long enough to find the part where she talked about Jerry Hicks. I left a comment there and I am copying and pasting it here too, not that I think anybody here is interested, but here it is anyway:

    "You're wrong about Jerry Hicks. The shadow of his unfinished business did not creep up and kill him. He dropped his body because he was no longer having as much fun now that he could have anything he wanted as when he was working to achieve it. I heard him say that with my own ears. I clearly felt his intention to drop his body and I clearly heard Esther panic. In the end his body complied with his own desire and Esther just had to deal with it."

    In the recording I'm referring to with the above, Jerry asked Abraham if his lack of enthusiasm meant that he should drop this body and start over in a new life. The voice of 'Abraham' started out relatively calm, but gradually escalated till 'they' were pretty much yelling at him to "use his imagination" to find something to keep him interested enough to stick around in his current body (sounding more like Esther than I have ever heard 'Abraham' sound, hahaha).

    I have never been too interested in Jerry and his questions, it was Esther channeling that fascinated me, so I didn't pay much attention to that incident, or the 'knowingness' I felt that Jerry was gearing up to exit this dimension. Until a year or two later, when he up and died... the memory of that exchange came flooding back into my mind in an 'aha!' moment of clear understanding. His death confused a lot of people, but it didn't confuse me.

  108. This interaction between both of you was very beautiful. Thanks for that....during insane move...some cool human behavior ( : always a pleasure. I need to catch up with everything.

  109. ...although you called me an obsessed idiot....at least we are both obsessed idiots ( : i guess.

    I have a deal with my man. Whenever one of us looses his or her shit, the other one tries to concentrate and stay normal and cool until demon goes to sleep again.... very successful method in a relationship...only problem: sometimes both loose the shit at the same time :D

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  112. PS: Regarding that proxy info, my son decided that what he had planned on doing threatened his own security so aborted the plan. He doesn't think it is teal related, although he said it is certainly possible. He suspects it was Chinese hackers using a Japanese proxy for no reason other than to collect data.


  113. Teal seems to have reached Stage 5 - mass events, a new avatar, rebranding everywhere, youtube channel name change... The image itself... Teal looks very bitter and hard. Not sure why they choose it. The blue dress looks like the cheap stuff i get around the corner. Obviously she took some advice and got a more prof looking image and changed the galaxy background which she took from the old forum background. I was hoping for some gentle vibes of the pic. But his is more ice queen in a kaftan than inviting open vibes.
    LV i didn't watch the latest video. What is the point?

    M2Y: "But GA, in the Byron Katie turn around, it's supposed to be that what you believe others are doing is what you do to others . So, I hear you say Teal is really turning "turn arounds" around."

    turning and twisting in the desert - indeed. Well BK turns all projections on others around towards yourself and then, if you turn out to be an evil ass, you turn it around to " my thinking is…." Independent of this, BK offers one way to deal with reality. you either use it for everything or forget about it. Teal uses it sometimes :D

    M2Y: "I adore chickens. I say they are dinosaurs small"

    OMG so true - you named it FINALLY. I was always wondering whilst staring at their funny legs. there is one chicken which i called chica who thinks I am really cool. Whenever i call her she comes running from the other end of the garden. There is nothing more funny than seeing a chicken full hearted running ahhahaha , just like a mini rex. So right hahahaha

    Elena: when i was studying art I lived in the anonymous student houses. One day a very pretty pigeons landed on my window bank. I opened it and she wasn't scared. She came every day and I fed her. She was amazing. Leave the pigeons in peace. they need to shit as well :D

  114. gosh Elena we certainly don't share the same taste of music ha

  115. I don't care much for his music (altho the words seem sweet to me now:)- it's the scenery that hits close to home.

    GA, trust me, I also liked pigens when in Canada. But here I spent a whole day cleaning and scrubbing one day, the I come back a few days later.....HUUUUGGEEE Mess. I'm sorry, but that's just disgusting to walk barefoot on...and I can't even dry my laundry without them pooing...yeah they have to eliminate...but it's a huge fucking field just beside, man! And did I mension they are noisy, very noisy. It's not just one, it's a freaking orchestrra.

  116. Ps. GA, we do share to some extend as far as I know, cs I liked the magical one you shared here once

    And, yes, I also have certain needs, but it's not like I'm violating their nests...In my heart of hearts I did not want war. The thought of starting smth like this is conflicting just a tad with my studies of Buddhism and spirituality in general lol. Pain, death, destruction- it is against everything I believe in. I had to do my utmost to avoid this. But, I had to do something. I did. I arranged a summit.
    It went well. I was elated with my progress! We were able to agree on two points. First, we both had an equal right to the universe. Second, we must find a way to exist happily together. I had an answer. I would agree not to live in their house, if they would agree not to live in mine. The balance of the world would be open territory for both of us.
    The peace treaty was signed.
    I kept my side of the bargain but the opposing troops did not. Persevere, Lena, persevere. I called a second summit.
    After no end of discussion, the problem became clear. I had six in my army ( that is including cats and a dog ); the opposition had.....4 thousand approx. Control of each individual in this multitude is impossible. It only stood to reason that, sooner or later, rascals, renegades and radicals would cross the line in the sand. I am left no alternative. I am installing a big shiny disco ball and some wavy thingies and foil balloons all over too.

  117. Lovely to check in and see ZZB, Elena, LV, GA all with an entry.

    Glad to hear about birds. This week I have seen two box turtles and a snake (unusual sightings) whom I think are also downsized dinosaurs. Everything could be just miniaturized now due to atmosphere changes? We may once have been have been 16-35 feet tall easily according to some theorists?

    Giants are us now to the weensy ones.

    I look at the insects and see amazing teeny colorful creatures all having a life. Since I think every thing has consciousness, they have their own outlook.

    On the other end, the scale of the Universe became larger with Lanikea.

    Then http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2014/09/07/laniakea-the-milky-way-s-place-in-the-heavens/jcr:content/image.crop.800.500.jpg/1410116613539.cached.jpg

    And I just read that ALL dinosaurs once had feathers. This is entertaining mind candy. AND on a forbidden movie channel I just watched the movie "Boyhood" which was filmed over a dozen years and the people are acting human, neither saints nor monsters. HIGHLY recommended.

    I have been feeling the enormity of the extremes and it is not comprehensible. And it sure puts certain people in a place of looking absurd....and it makes me laugh about my own absurdities feeling so amazed that I have this strange life experience. It is extraordinary I exist at all, how good does that make me feel??? GREAT.
    ...much love, Maggie

  118. Hey zigzag, apology accepted, of course. And I'm with ya on the heat. My solution is to not go outside at all, if I can help it. Just hiding in my air conditioned sanctuary until it passes. The weeds are gonna have to wait.

    Your story about Jerry Hicks is, wow, beautiful! I know we disagree on the Abraham material overall, but I gotta say, this is exactly what I was talking about right here. I just don't think it serves any good purpose to make people wrong for getting sick. People get sick for many different reasons and one of them can be that it's simply their time to move on. And they deserve our love and and support through that transition. Making them wrong for that is just cruel.

    And, not for nothin,' but teal's just done it, too, only from a different angle. Jerry Hicks "came down with cancer" because he wasn't dealing with his shadow. Fuck. That. Like she bloody knows what made this total stranger tick.

    It actually makes me smile to think that he was that clear and knew it was just his time. Happy trails to you Jerry Hicks.

  119. Oh, speaking of Facebook, someone pointed me to this bit of hilarity. Blake Dyer's profile image was recently changed to teal's awful Soul Retrieval painting. So I guess these days Blake is spending his days and nights "retrieving" Lovecraftian demons?

    I don't know what's funnier. That Blake completely ignored questions about why he's defining by an image from the Necronomicon or that he says Kandinsky used to be his favorite artist. One assumes that was before he discovered the wonder that is teal. Kandinsky, thrown over for teal. But hey, Kandinsky used bright colors and, um, shapes. So does teal. What's the difference, really.

  120. Is Van Diesel trying to get in touch with his soul as well?


  121. Came across an article called "The Deliberate Intent To Deceive People Is At An All Time High"
    and here are some interesting bits:

    "It is the disinfo artist and those who may pull their strings (those who stand to suffer should the crime be solved) MUST seek to prevent rational and complete examination of any chain of evidence which would hang them. Since fact and truth seldom fall on their own, they must be overcome with lies and deceit. Those who are professional in the art of lies and deceit, such as the intelligence community and the professional criminal (often the same people or at least working together), tend to apply fairly well defined and observable tools in this process. However, the public at large is not well armed against such weapons, and is often easily led astray by these time-proven tactics. Remarkably, not even media and law enforcement have NOT BEEN TRAINED to deal with these issues. For the most part, only the players themselves understand the rules of the game.

  122. [Some] Rules of Disinformation

    ( and LV has already done a good job detecting and pointing out some of these habits;-)

    4. Use a straw man.

    Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

    5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule.

    This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. [ in this case it's haters, anti-teal, paid trolls...]This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

    6. Hit and Run.

    In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain critical reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.

    7. Question motives.

    Twist or amplify any fact which could be taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

    8. Invoke authority.

    Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

    9. Play Dumb.

    No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

    10. Associate opponent charges with old news.

    A derivative of the straw man -- usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with - a kind of investment for the future should the matter not be so easily contained.) Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually then be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.

    11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions.

    Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the 'high road' and 'confess' with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, 'just aren't so.' Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later, and even publicly 'call for an end to the nonsense' because you have already 'done the right thing.' Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for 'coming clean' and 'owning up' to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.

  123. 12. Enigmas have no solution.

    Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to lose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

    13. Alice in Wonderland Logic.

    Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.

    17. Change the subject.

    Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

    18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents.

    If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'

    19. Ignore facts presented, demand impossible proofs.

    This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

    20. False evidence.

    Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations -- as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

    22. Manufacture a new truth.

    Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.

    23. Create bigger distractions.

    If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.

    24. Silence critics.

    If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by destroying them financially, emotionally, or severely damaging their health.

    25. Vanish.

    If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.

  124. There is also this:

    "Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist

    1) Avoidance

    They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility."

    But I will stop posting it here, for those interested to read more, here's the link


  125. Oh, on Vin Diesel. According to this, he has no tattoos. The Necronomicon on his neck was, I believe in Babylon A.D. But all his tats are fake.


  126. Good list.
    elena did you ever try pigeon milk?
    you might have an army of flying milk cows on your balcony :D

    ...ah got you - I bet you were thinking hard for one or two seconds.

    have to go throught the list slowly

  127. well I somehow missed this interview


    In my eyes - the perspective of war is a no brainer - I am still struggling to wrap my brain around the motivations, actions and consequences of war. every religion and philosophy suggests a certain view on it. so far I didn't find a concept which doesn't suck in one way or the other.

  128. Well, as I said to Jessica, she fleshes out her praise for Hitler a little better in that interview than she did in the teacast I wrote up here. But the idea that positive change can come out of horrible experiences is not as novel as teal seems to think. The same can be said of so many of teal's "original" observations.

    What struck me as funnier was her assertion moments later that her vibration is much higher than most people on the planet. You know a lot of us freak out electrical equipment. It's not because we're so bloody special. It's a fairly common experience, actually.

  129. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204361350901353&set=a.10201074551253416.1073741827.1457409838&type=1&theater

  130. speechless-read the comment section of previous link

    "Cameron Clark I can speak from my own personal experience. Teal Scott tried to push me to commit suicide out of the blue once when she became irritated with me while I was living with her last year. Thank god I was not and had never been suicidal in my life. Teal is a certifiable nut job, who has no business playing out her egoically maniacal mind games on any unsuspecting "clients" coming to her for spiritual, emotional or mental advice who are exhibiting signs of depression."

  131. Yes, GA. I know. The woman I had hoped was a fiction when I wrote it up in this post has a name. I've known this for a while. There's a reason I've taken to calling her the Typhoid Mary of Suicidal Ideation. Bear in mind that she also told Fallon he should kill himself when he wasn't becoming what she'd hoped.

  132. speechless again - this is getting worse by the hour

    "Jessica Schab: its from people who personally lived with her and heard her say it.. apparently she is obsessed with hitler and talked about him often singing his praises"

  133. I read the comment by Cameron. Horrifying pattern. Anyone who saw the early shadow house videos and knew what Fallon and Cameron experienced being in close and personal would run.

    It makes me wonder about those who are till close and what life is like in Teal Cult-ure.

    She is receiving more and more positive attention as I am seeing her somewhat lauded where I never saw Teal stuff pop up.

    The pattern of suggesting people who peeve her kill themselves.......and coupling that obliquely with her admiration of national socialism. THAT adds up in my own connections with deeply engrained programming that is death directed. The dangerous human capacity to justify murder of all who opposed as a solution is the same kind of genocidal human capacity that is cropping up other places too. Only the "righteous" as defined by the beholder deserves to live. That bottom line seems to be my definition of evil-ly directed hatred.

    That Teal is an advocate in her way shows she is all inner twisted and warped.

  134. queen of twirls of words

    "Teal Swan Ramona Mehrbrodt I have so many "friends" that face book has decide I don't get anymore. And I get about four hundred new requests a day. So when my material pisses people off and they decide they don't want to be my friend anymore and I have an opening, one of the people who works for me goes through messages for people writing me about wanting to be added as a friend, and selects who they intuitively feel are the most in alignment with being added. Usually the people who are added are those who love my material, but who are responsible for their own vibration and thus do not expect me to "solve everything" in their life. This qualifies them as more of a "team mate" than a follower. I assure you it's nothing personal. I would add everyone if I could."

    (in the comment section)

    WOW :D

  135. Sorry, my cut and past left something out....

    her admiration of Hitler and others also speaking to desiring a form of white protecting national socialism (like on redice where they interview holocaust deniers). This is going along with other self righteous humans who believe that killing is a solution as in honor killings. yes, these are all separate examples but they share something in common.

    Admitting to making a big stretch but it seems the same thought forms being embraced.

    Is Teal being played by a monstrous thought form complex?

  136. Holy crap! What did this Ramona person say. I can't see any of it because teal blocked me. LOL

  137. HI LV just saw your comment

    "Ramona Mehrbrodt: How come my friend request gets refused and others are successful ?? Hmmm"

    I was just so shocked that she suggested to Cameron to commit suicide.

    M2Y: "Is Teal being played by a monstrous thought form complex?"

    In some ways she is actually copying strategies and visions of hitler....if you look closely. I have a feeling (in case Teal or Co. is reading this here) she would be honored if she really is such a hitler admirer. The germans at this time were blamed for everything, no vision, no unity - H. recognized it and brought them together and suggested a vision. The group experience, conquering the lands of philosophy and religion to make it Teal Age. Think about it. I might went too far with this thought but there is something about it.

    Teal's answer to Ramona is just beyond me
    "Usually the people who are added are those who love my material, but who are responsible for their own vibration and thus do not expect me to "solve everything" in their life."
    :D I don't even know what to say about it.

    anyway- Heil Teal.
    I love my chickens, white sheets hanging on the washing line which spans from one tree to another, waking up to cock's screaming and sunshine in the face, going to bed with the full moon behind the trees shining in my face... rural paradise

  138. "I was just so shocked that she suggested to Cameron to commit suicide."

    And Fallon and, depending on your read of her statement in that video, a woman who actually did.

    I gotta tell ya, she's really startin' to scare me. There's a picture that begins to form out of all this and it isn't good.

  139. Considering quote 1 from Cameron and quote 2 from Teal...

    quote 1
    "...Teal Scott tried to push me to commit suicide out of the blue once when she became irritated with me while I was living with her last yea....."

    "....but who are responsible for their own vibration and thus do not expect me to "solve everything" in their life. This qualifies them as more of a "team mate" than a follower. ..."


    Now her logic of quote 2 needs to be applied to any kind of interaction with human beings. I wonder if Teal would argue that independent of her suggestion to commit suicide to C. , C. should be responsible for her own choices to follow this advice or not and because she can't solve everything for anybody else...and the person can't figure it out him or herself...a "logic" suggestion by Teal to commit suicide. SICK.

    This abuse of her position in regards to C, who was openly a big fan of T and moved over there to learn from her.... is not a small boo boo. It should be addressed by Teal, now that it is public.

    Teal what are you doing?

    Are you a sociopath?

  140. The Strange & Curious Tale of the Last True Hermit


  141. Australian man wakes up from coma, can speak Mandarin fluently:


    Sun Unleashes Major Solar Flare at Earth (Video) Sept 10


  142. Maggie, this one is for you! :-D

    First Swimming Dinosaur Was 'Half-Duck, Half-Crocodile'


  143. GA, why don't you come over and teach me how to do it (milking the pigeons)?;-) Think I'd been a city dweller for way too long :-/

  144. I wonder what teal would say to about this...no, after her coverage on that boy shooter I really don't want to know.


  145. Now, Elena, you and I both know that those 5 kids law of attracted that shit. Oh that poor man. What must have happened to him in childhood. I bet it involved juice.

  146. Just looking over the newest page of tealclaims. It's here on her promo for the guided meditation thingo.

    "I have a hyper sensitive sense of hearing [sic] (I'm hypersensitive to bad writing. She couldn't come up with something better than the horribly redundant hypersensitive sense.)

    I can hear tectonic plates moving. I’m sure you’re a familiar with how the tide is pulled by the gravity of the moon. What people don’t understand is that the gravity of the moon affects everything, not just water, it pulls at the earth too, and I can hear it. Full moons are very, very loud to me. I hate the sound of cotton balls (a sound I gather many people can’t hear). People talking in other rooms which would be inaudible to many, is not inaudible to me. I have hearing which is able to pick up the extremely high frequency of thought forms so I have clairaudience. In other words I can hear thought forms."

    Once again, "what people don't understand" is shit everybody knows. The moon exerts a gravitational force on the planet that is more intense at the full moons. Duh. We only have wind because of the moon. This is grade school science, people.

    But here's the weird part. I have that cotton ball thing, too. I can't stand the sound of cotton balls. Drives me crazy. I have to handle them really carefully because the sound of them stands my teeth on edge.

    I had friends in college who were so perplexed by this that they spent an evening -- they were a couple -- playing with cotton balls and trying to figure out why they drove me mad. They even set them on fire. They tried everything. And they reported to me that were as perplexed as ever that I am bothered by something as inoffensive as cotton balls. Even writing this up is hard because I don't like even thinking about cotton balls. It's very sensory for me.

    I'm also clairaudient. A lot of people are. It's not unusual. Far more common than hating the sound of cotton balls.

  147. Oops. Here: http://www.jointeallive.com/

  148. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x5DRv8lXtA

    as i don't have a clue how cotton ball sounds, i found this video - looks like a freak but still can't hear a thing and I also didn't know that the moon creates the wind - wow. I must have had a dumb teacher or so.

    People should have a read here - they do an interesting job of research on Teal and make their point very clear.




    I just went through the website of jointeallive...blablablabla. can't wait to be peddled by the juicy rose peddle .... who gave her this horrible cheap looking blue dress. She looks like an image of an image. and photographer: next time, get her face sharp. I don't get mad about the sound of cotton balls but i get mad about unsharp unprofessional pictures grrrrr.

    found this one :D

  149. Hi GA,

    I won't be watching your cotton ball video. I'm not kidding. It's a thing. I can't stand them.

    The moon is actually pivotal to much about our climate. There are more factors that go into wind production -- like the sun -- but the moon is a major one. There are things about the geometric perfection of the moon in relation to the earth that cause some people to think it must have been manufactured. (See: David Icke) Our climate would be quite different without it.

    I can't see Jessica's page because she has blocked me. She learned that I don't share her total contempt for all things spiritual, religious, mythic, and metaphorical, and she unfriended and blocked me. Apparently, when she and her husband were pilfering graphics and other material from my teal posts, they did not bother to look at anything else on my blog and did not grok that I am a card-carrying new age flake. And as they consider all spiritual practices stupid and insane, our views on many things are incompatible.

    Did I mention that I won't be watching your cotton ball thing? Because I won't. I really won't. Styrofoam also causes me major discomfort. Don't show me any of that either.

  150. Cotton-Ball-Peace-Flag LV ....waving in the wind which is moved by the moon.

    Oh this are some news. Currently I am reading their material because it is so different. I like to stretch the thoughts and take all in consideration. And they have some well-crafted thoughts over there. I ignore the parts where i disagree. I am not interested in an argument about final truth etc.... as i figured that this is the end of any observation action.

    LV your block list on fb seems to be endless :D

  151. Not really, GA. Just teal and Jessica, that I'm aware of. And I can't think of anyone I've blocked. This whole blocking thing is very new to me.

  152. FWIW, I was more than happy to agree to disagree with Jessica. This, I learned, is not a concept she believes in. Bad beliefs are a virus which needs to be purged. So, I'm out. Whatev...

  153. End Of Fear seems to be based on Atheistic/Agnostic principles. Hard for me to invite when I witness GOD daily. Apparently its all in my head........ well, yes! But my head is no less real than yours which claims there is no point in validating...um...anything????

    I don't know.....Just another bandwagon if you ask me. Too many in these tender times........

  154. as far as Teal....wow! bloody insane......She is setting herself up for an extreme rejection/embarrassment from society. One day somebody is going to "ask Teal" to actually do something with her gifts instead of sitting around talking.........

    Her videos are sooooo Kmart special. Corny and tacky. I would have loved it if she had remain grounded and cut through the illusion and understood ONENESS. alas........shes teaching the same tired concepts that only promote separation.

  155. Well
    Teal's latest video has really some good points

    forget about this strange title and
    is Teal drunk? Or did she booked a voice coach for her spoken meditation products... and is just overdoing the tender rose pedal voice and the sex kitten eyes are there again...squeeeze squeezzee.

    so irritating. best get read of the visual in total.

    Regarding Jessica: I find the concept very aggressive but still busy diving in there and looking around.

  156. I may watch more of this ghastly video later. I have a lot on my plate right now. But in the few moments I've taken in I can see that this is her attempt to correct her whole the Buddha was wrong thing. Nice of her to finally check the Wikipedia page as we'd recommended. But I love the way it wasn't her mistake. It was a mistake made thousands of years ago by some other people who didn't understand the words they were using.... or something.

    I'll only begin to worry about you GA, on the eof thing, if I hear you're throwing out all your crystals because you've decided that they're stupid. At that point I will probably have to stage an intervention.

  157. I don't like the sound of cotton balls either. A few times in my life I have had to tear one in half... painful! I pretty much just gritted my teeth, closed my eyes (I don't know how that helped) and got it over with. I don't even use them anymore because of that.

    And it seems to me like those 'end of fear' people are afraid of fear, hahaha. It also seems to me like GA is trying to 'break the teal spell' with a 'jessicamystic spell'. That's like half a dozen of one and 6 of another if you ask me, not that anyone did.

    In the old days everybody wanted to be a rock star, today it seems like everybody wants to be a guru. I'm glad for the reflection though, because it has shown me how unattractive it looks on me. I'm not into humble pie and that's a fact, but I am into 'unassuming'.

    And there are no unassuming gurus, unless they don't even realize their impact, but especially not when they are self-proclaimed, because right away they are assuming that other people need their sage advice, just like I'm doing right here.

    If a raindrop could try hard to be a good and obedient little raindrop, it would be wasted effort, since it already is a good and obedient little raindrop, and it can't be other than a good and obedient little raindrop), or if it thought it was the best raindrop there ever was and wanted all the other raindrops to gawk in astounded awe at it's amazing beyond raindrop perfection, and all the other drops of water felt pretty much the same way, well, it would still be rainfall and it would still nourish the earth and enable the continuation of both itself and the earthly atmosphere, regardless of its opinion of itself.

    Thus, I have decided that I am the best raindrop ever, enjoying my free fall from the clouds to the earth, hahaha, and that the only thing I want to do is exactly what I'm doing... exploring and reveling in my aliveness, while simultaneously appreciating the beauty and perfection in the aliveness of all the other raindrops around me, hahahaha... tall order!

  158. Hahahaha... yeah, that "rose petal voice" is worse than the sound of cotton to me!

    And LaVaughn, if GA decided crystals were stupid and was getting rid of them, she could end up giving them to you so why intervene?? I'll take them if you don't want them! Hahaha.

  159. "I don't like the sound of cotton balls either. A few times in my life I have had to tear one in half... painful! I pretty much just gritted my teeth, closed my eyes (I don't know how that helped) and got it over with. I don't even use them anymore because of that."

    RIGHT?!! It's awful. But you are literally the third person I've encountered who hears the awful sound of cotton balls. And teal is the second. I gave up on discussing this ages ago because I got tired of the strange looks. My family knows not to handle cotton around me. And we have an agreement that if something is in styrofoam, like electronics, someone else has to unpack it and I have to be elsewhere.

    Can't stand it. Makes my teeth itch.

  160. "And LaVaughn, if GA decided crystals were stupid and was getting rid of them, she could end up giving them to you so why intervene??"

    No, the crystal picks the person. We only think it's the other way 'round. It's just like cats.

  161. Yeah, styrofoam... my brother collects it. One day I got the bright idea to use crumbled styrofoam to help lighten up my clay soil. First I had to break the big slabs of it he had (to use for insulation) into smaller pieces which I then had to rub against each other to crumble it up. Talk about itching teeth, oh my god was that a nightmare! I have to say though, it did strengthen my immunity to styrofoam, hahaha!

  162. Well, maybe those crystals have picked you (or me, or anybody) and arranged to have GA suddenly get the urge to dispose of them?

  163. PS: I forgot to mention in the styrofoam post that in addition to breaking chunks of, I also had to use a bread knife to saw through the bigger slabs. I think you can probably imagine the torture I subjected myself to with that! That was how strong my intention to have a wonderful garden was, hahaha!

  164. Aaaaaaaggggggghhhhhhh!!!!! I don't want to imagine it. Imagination too vivid! Ears... teeth... vibrating..... Aaaaaaaagggggggghhhhhh!!!

    Don't even get excited :D

    and having a dive in a pink water pool doesn't make you turn pink guys. I just always felt attracted by radical concepts. don't know why. But then they all freak me out after while. I should stop this.

    to add to the shiver list:
    I don't freak out with cotton balls or styrofoam but whenever i see a man biting his nails (woman not so bad as man)...the sound - I die.

    Don't even get excited :D"

    Hahahahaha... and if anybody is looking for a few more good laughs, they're bound to find them here: http://pulptastic.com/27-photos-things-totally-look-like-something-else/

  167. We see these buses on the highway all the time, and we really thought we were the only people in the world who thought they looked like Hitler. We were wrong:


    You'd think they'd bloody well change the design.

  168. LV, I was kind of relieved that you still claim some love of new age conceptual metaphor and woo woo (if it is not stupid manipulating trash?)
    I was shocked a bit that Jessica and the EOF people can't allow criticism because I thought they were saying we should stay in questioning mode.

    I hear LV questioning??? Unfortunately it made me wonder if the motive there is to have THEIR ORIGINAL angle. So again it is just more youth yakking (Teal, Purple, whatever color)
    People are seeming to be increasingly All Jacked up on their causes.

    I say GIVE ME Azurite intertwined with Malachite and with Chrysocolla for a good time.

  169. I LOVE azurite and chrysocolla. I have a couple of pieces. Yummy.

    Yup. Still a new age flake, me, and proud of it.

  170. OMG do I have a new hero. I have never watched a TED talk that brought me to tears, but this one did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b6-0yW7Iaw&feature=youtu.be

    PS: The guy who uploaded the video has a pretty hilarious username, hehehe.

  171. PPS: I imagine everyone else has already seen this video, but I only just discovered it. Better late than never!

  172. OMG love it. Thanks ZZB

  173. Have you watched any of his documentaries on lost civilizations? They are fascinating! I even forgot to smoke! I was sitting here riveted to the screen with my mouth hanging open, hahahaha! It was watching those that brought me to this TED talk.

  174. In fact this statement of his so relates to the issue gurus and such that I am quoting it here:

    " In further answer, I would hope that what I’ve done is encourage the asking of questions, to persuade my readers never to accept anything at face value – including, of course, my own work! We need to engage our own brains, and investigate matters for ourselves. That’s what the new awakening in the world is, in part, about. You know, we suffer from a veneration of so-called “experts” in the West – a bad habit of veneration and deference dupes us into relying on others, the so-called “experts”, for many of the key decisions in our lives – when in fact who can be more of an expert on our own lives than we ourselves? That’s one of the things I see changing. People, particularly young people, are no longer willing to hand over their personal responsibility for themselves to others, and now actively want and demand sovereignty over their own lives, over their own consciousness, and over their own health. More and more of us, young and old, are refusing give our power to “experts,” and bureaucrats and scientists. We prefer to grow up and make our own decisions and resist those who seek to take decisions for us."

    The entire interview can be found here: http://omtimes.com/2014/09/graham-hancock/ (The interview is below the video.)

  175. zigzag, you know that TED censored that video right? It caused what I call the TED fiasco. All the deets can be found under the tag DeleTED.

    By the way that Om Times interview was done by a very dear friend of mine. I wrote it up here.

  176. HAHAHAHAHAHA... Why am I not surprised that you're already on it!! I'll have to give your article a read!

    And yeah, I had heard the uproar over talks being deleted from TED, but since I only rarely watch a TED talk I wasn't particularly interested. I only just found out it was Rupert Sheldrake and Graham Hancock who had their talks deleted! I'm interested now!

  177. It was INFURIATING!! I got wind of it from Hancock's Facebook pages and followed the whole thing through to it's dreadful conclusion. It left me just disgusted with TED.

  178. Yeah, I am conducting my own personal boycott and will not watch anymore of their talks until the issue is cleaned up by them.The comment sections of the dialogs TED had opened up regarding both of them is VERY interesting!

  179. I wouldn't hold my breath. Chris Anderson has been asked some very direct questions and dodged them all. He considers the matter closed. But there is a Facebook page.


  180. Yeah, that's what I had concluded... both dialogs were closed and there was no indication anywhere that the debate Sheldrake had asked for had been scheduled, or even acknowledged. I definitely won't be watching anymore TED talks.

    Thanks for the fb link!

  181. TED straight up said they would not debate them. They said, through a spokesperson to an interviewer, that they considered the online discussion forums enough of a debate and would not put anyone forward to debate either Hancock or Sheldrake. It's in one of those blog posts that I did on the topic. I can't remember which.

    As far as I'm concerned, they lost all credibility over this incident. I still think they put up the occasional good talk and I hold nothing against their speakers, who are also just being exploited for someone else's financial gain. Really the whole thing is so sickening.

  182. So, this is kind of funny. Blake finally responded to questions regarding his fondness for the painting of Necronomicon and Reiki symbols.

    Blake Dyer: The symbol on the bottom is a symbol for raising the dead. IT symbolizes raising inner children that have died to us and that we are disconnected from, in combination with the healing symbol on top, it is perfect for integration.
    September 10 at 5:07pm · Like · 14


    I don't know what I find sadder, the idea that our soul parts are dead or the misapprehension that the Necronomicon is about raising the dead. It's not. It's about raising Lovecraftian demons. The man wrote horror.

    "In the excerpts Lovecraft wrote in his tales, supposedly coming from the Necronomicon, we mainly find cautionary erudition concerning magical powers and practices stemming from alien entities with godlike powers, who are said to exist in other dimensions, neither alive nor dead, and who will return to earth someday 'when the stars are again right.' Thus, the premise of Lovecraft’s book differs from what is found in these real books of the dead, as well as the theory and practice found in existing grimoires, which are manuals explaining how to summon up demonic entities, usually based on Judeo-Christian mythology. His was truly an original conception."


    So my question remains. Are these people just horribly bad appropriators of material that they don't understand at all, or are they being cagey and deflective about using sigil magic popular among black magicians. I'm not referring here to the Church of Satan which isn't so much practicing black magic as they are wicked satire.

  183. You can count me in hahaha. I mean in that "I hate cotton balls" club. Errrggg, those little Japanese torture devices.. Just reading those entries above makes my hair stand up, gives me goose bumps and clenched teeth. Thank god for cotton pads, these I can deal with.

    Another trigger- when a very dry cotton fluffy towel rubs against another fluffy or some dry uneven surface which also produces the sound....ohh, that feeling gives me shivers. Same with certain wools and synthetic materials.

    Now Styrofoams...ZZB, wish I could've helped you with that thing you did for your garden. For some reason, I don't like that white stuff too, only it bring me some kind of weird pleasure to destroy it. If I'm "reduced" to having to drink some beverage from such cup, before I dispose of it, it would be in pieces. I also hate using plastic utensils...and not just cs of concern for the environment, it is an assault on my human dignity I feel, lol. I'd rather eat with my hands...which I actually love to do.

    And I love popping the bubbles from the bubble wrapping-does wonders for my nerves.

  184. Well, this is a relief. I really thought I was in a very unique position on cotton balls. I've just had so many people stare at me in disbelief that I thought it was most peculiar. You know I mentioned this to my husband and he assured me that he's never thought it terribly odd. He hears them, too, and has always understood exactly what I was talking about. He just has a higher threshold. He doesn't feel it intensely enough to be bothered. Men. When he was a child, though, he had a similar issue with the paper on crayons and I so get that. I find mass market paperbacks troublesome for the same reason, particularly as they age and the pages dry out. Tactile nightmare.

    And bubble wrap is a blast.

  185. cute aliens :D


  186. Noncast: The Bottomless Rabbit Hole pt 1

    In November of last year, I fell down a rabbit hole. It all started when I voiced some nagging concerns I had about a wannabe new age leader in a blog post entitled Who and What is Teal Scott? I expected some pushback from what I already knew to be an "army" of passionate fans. I knew that a handful of public critics had been attacked, vilified, and threatened. Such things rarely concern me, so I said my piece anyway. What I did not expect was the flood of support I would receive from the many people who shared my concerns. I did not anticipate that there would be so many of them or that the number would continue to grow. I also did not know that the concerns I'd voiced in that piece only skimmed the surface of the problem. What has evolved instead is a kind of crowd-sourced compendium of issues with this woman, articulated in volumes of comments and discussion.

    I knew I was going down a rabbit hole. I did not know then and do not know now how deep the rabbit hole goes. I suspect it is bottomless.

    Imagine it as a kind of wormhole at the center of a black and white hypno wheel. Oh, wait. You don't have to imagine it because it's right here in her video on false prophets. There she stands, naked shouldered and batting her eyelashes at the camera, as she tells her audience: there's no such thing as false prophets... there's no such thing as false prophets... there's no such thing as false prophets... listen to the sound of my monotonous voice... there's no such thing as false prophets... there's no such thing as false prophets... your eyelids are getting heavy... there's no such thing as false prophets...

    It's no wonder that her distorted checkerboard pattern made us think of this iconic Tom Petty video.

    It also brought to mind something else. As we discussed in comments a while back, teal has described herself as playing chess with people's minds. She reportedly said this in a long gone Shadow House episode. But this is not the only reference. In this video, transcribed here, she describes a person, who, say, didn't feel very loved growing up -- someone who sounds very much like teal:

    "Because I am an energy vampire, I am a master at manipulating energy. I could become a brilliant energy worker. I have the capability of consciously pulling in negative energy and transmuting it inside my own body. This means I can feed off of illness and discordant energy rather than stealing life force from people’s bodies. I can manipulate energy to heal people. Also, being an energy vampire, I am a master at mental chess. I play mind games with people. So, the highest aspect of that trait (what we call the exalted aspect) is to play mind games with people that benefit them. I could become a brilliant counselor or psychologist. I could outsmart other people’s egos and help them to see things about themselves that they are totally unaware of."

    See? Playing with people's heads is actually good!

    - to be cont -

  187. Noncast: The Bottomless Rabbit Hole pt 2

    With teal, a lot of things that most people think are good, like humility, are bad, and a lot of things that most people think are bad, like manipulation, are good. Strangely, this concept did not go over real well with the Spirit Science crowd. Presumably some of them have dictionaries and know how to use them.

    “If we fear manipulative people, it is only because we do not realize that every being on this earth (including ourselves) is manipulative. Manipulation is not evil. It does not mean that someone intends to hurt or use other people for their own benefit. So what does it mean to be manipulative? To be manipulative is to speak and act in a way that guarantees that we get the response we want to get from other people. So you see, manipulation is how most of us try to get love. Manipulation is how most of us try to get safety… because we do not trust the world to be kind to us. Everyone is manipulative, we are simply more or less aware of that aspect within ourselves.”

    See? Controlling people and extorting responses from them is fine as long as it's about love! And, once again, this is teal erroneously projecting her own pathology onto "most of us." Because no.

    What teal calls "shadow work" is often just apologia for toxic behavior that she cannot or does not want to change and seems to have convinced herself is fairly universal. In her conception, we don't all simply have a shadow, we're all just a few lucky breaks away from homicide -- as in, we'd all be "virgin killer" Elliot Rodger if we'd lived the life of tragic neglect that he did not, in fact, live.

    Time and time again teal identifies and empathizes with villains and tyrants and treats their victims like an afterthought. This reaches whole new levels of terrifying when you consider that she wants to buy countries... and that she keeps talking about Jim Jones.

    Shortly after penning a blog post in which she all but extolled the virtues of his intentional community, aka., Jonestown, she invokes Jones again, as she explains against her hypno wheel background that there are no false prophets. She acknowledges that the 900+ deaths were unfortunate, but she puts the onus on victims and leaves out a whole lot of the nitty gritty.

    - to be cont -

  188. Noncast: The Bottomless Rabbit Hole pt 3

    On the one hand, we're glad that she took the time to do a little cursory research. You can actually hear the Wikipedia falling out of her mouth. On the other hand, she can't even get that small amount of information straight. She accepts at face value Jones's claim of "revolutionary suicide," a term he misappropriated from Black Panther Huey Newton. Moments later she refers to his "Apollistic Communism," a term which we found very confusing (Jim Jones worshiped Apollo???) until we checked the wiki ourselves and learned that this was her sad attempt to say "Apostolic Socialism." Worse still, she claims that he pressed his followers -- a third of whom were children with no choice in the matter -- into suicide in order to set them free. In point of fact, Jones was responsible for the murder of Congressman Leo Ryan and four other people, an act of revenge for their aiding defectors from the People's Temple in their desire to leave. Jones knew perfectly well that arrests would follow and that his days were numbered. He wasn't out to "free" anybody. He was just sharing the wealth of his own inevitable doom.

    Jones was not evil, according to teal, because there's no such thing as evil or "malevolent intention." All intentions are positive, according to teal, because whatever actions people undertake, are attempts to make themselves feel good. Feeling good is always positive, according to teal. She is so proud of this idea that it's one she's quoted herself on.

    "Behind every single action lies a positive intention. All hateful acts are misguided attempts to carry out a positive intention."

    According to teal, as long as you're acting in the interest of your personal pleasure, you're being positive, not evil. That this justifies rape, thrill-killings, massacres, and a host of other crimes against humanity, in no way detracts from this self-satisfied glee at her own powers of deduction.

    It is a thoroughly narcissistic construction. Seeking after your own pleasure, no matter who is manipulated, harmed, or killed, is not positive. It's destructive, hateful, devoid of empathy, and, yes, evil.

    Remember when LOA people used to caveat their intentions with phrases like, "This or something better, for the highest good of all." Whatever happened to that? I blame The Secret. But teal gets the palm for raising aspirational selfishness to previously inconceivable heights. There is no new age idea that she won't twist into crazy pretzels to justify odious behavior.

    The lesson of Jonestown, according to teal, is the importance of discernment. The problem was never that Jim Jones was a charismatic leader who charmed and manipulated people into thinking he was a great humanitarian with a vision. The problem was that people bought into it and wound up drinking cyanide spiked Flavor Aid. They just should have known better.

    With teal, victims are always responsible for their own injury or death. Perpetrators are the true victims, damaged by their parents, and unfairly maligned. They're not evil. They're just following their "joy" to the best of their ability.

    - to be cont -

  189. Noncast: The Bottomless Rabbit Hole pt 4

    If people don't want to be taken in by those false prophets that don't really exist, they need to hone their skills of discernment. Check stuff against your "truth rod," people.

    Am I the only one who finds who finds it a little odd that in this very blog post, which we know was and is continually checked by Blake, et al., I wrote about the "truth cord?"


    "Christina Pratt talks about bouncing everything off your 'truth cord.' It helps if you've located that line that runs right through your core."


    "Now what you do is you imagine that through the center of your body is like a rod that is your core. It's running straight through the middle of your body."

    Of course, if she has, aherm, borrowed this concept, kind of interesting how completely ignores all the stuff about how previous injuries leave us incredibly vulnerable to abusers of our trust and that restoring the instincts is a necessary healing process to protect ourselves from victimization. I also don't exempt such abusers from all responsibility and put the onus on potential victims for protecting themselves. But, again, I have this whacky idea that there are, in fact, false prophets, cult leaders, and con artists, and that their intentions just might not be pure.

    The motivation behind this video appears to be teal absolving herself of any responsibility for misleading people. It was posted in the aftermath of the Teal Tribe melee that saw many people banned for asking for questions about her's and Blake's veracity. She is defending against concerns that she is a fraud by claiming that there's no such thing as fraud.

    "The perspective that Teal is a fraud is as true from the perspectives that certain people hold as the perspective that Teal is a true prophet."

    Rather than simply answer the questions, we get the this mishmash of ideas about how everything is true from one perspective or another and we all need to find what is true for ourselves. I don't disagree, in principle, that the marketplace of ideas should really cause us to develop our own compass. But this entire broadcast ignores the role of empiricism. She encourages people to listen to their intuition, but not to evaluate information based on any system of logic. We think the subtext here is: Stop fact-checking me!

    I am very big on the role of intuition. I'm intuitive for a living, after all. But logic matters. Empirical facts matter. She would have us all going through life in a perpetual state of suspended disbelief, picking and choosing things based only on what "feels" right. This would certainly benefit someone like herself, because she just never makes a lick of sense. See: Her bizarre idea of life as a giant game of Go Fish, complete with "surety cards" and "not cards."

    "You're nothing but a pack of cards!" ~ Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

    - to be cont -

  190. Noncast: The Bottomless Rabbit Hole pt 5

    Bottom line, she does not want her claims evaluated for any kind of accuracy, just picked or discarded based on feelings. Coming from someone who admits to being manipulative and extorting emotional responses from people, this is a rather terrifying prospect. That she calls the product of such selection a "cocktail" is more terrifying still.

    "So life is about becoming inebriated and besotted. Just drink the Teal-Aid, people. I want you to be intoxicated with me." ~ J

    One hopes it isn't laced with cyanide, but if it were, at least we could rest assured it was only because of teal's positive intention to feel good.

    And further down the rabbit hole we go, finding of all damn things, a tea party -- complete with a child-friendly, anthropomorphized frog. I do love that frog.

    Is it me or is the frog gradually turning to face teal? He used to face directly out toward the camera didn't he? But in this newest teacast, he's turned his stoical gaze in her direction, the entire effect of which is two, faces passively gazing as she talks and talks and talks...

    Once again, we can hear the Wikipedia falling out of teal's mouth as she attempts to define "Rites of Passage." At no time does she cite a source but she is taking the framework of Arnold van Gennep, author of Rites of Passage, as it is articulated in the Wikipedia entry. She uses his three step process, but, being teal, gets it a little wrong.

    Step 1 she gets right: "separation." But by step 2, she's lost her mental note cards, and changes Gennep's "liminality" to "transition phase," a term which doesn't quite capture the nuances. Then it morphs again into the "metamorphosis phase." And then she explains that, "It's known as the most shaky phase."

    Known by whom, we wonder.

    By step 3, she's recovered her still unnamed Gennep notes and explains the "incorporation" step.

    At this point, Sarbdeep completely restates these steps as "death, transition/transformation, and rebirth."

    So, okay, some of this is semantic hairsplitting, but wouldn't it all have been simpler to say, these are the three steps identified by the Arnold van Gennep who wrote the seminal work on rites of passage and then state them correctly? To do that, though, teal might have to abandon the pretense that she is the cosmic answer lady who divines all this information directly from "source."

    - to be cont -

  191. Noncast: The Bottomless Rabbit Hole pt 6

    She also misconstrues a reference in her obvious source document, the Wikipedia entry, by placing incorrect and undue emphasis on cognitive dissonance. She first references cognitive dissonance as being part of the "shaky phase." But confusion and cognitive dissonance are not the same thing. Cognitive dissonance arises over contradictory pieces of information, both of which are held to be true. For instance, listening to one of teal's videos with any credulity creates cognitive dissonance, because she contradicts herself all over the place.

    At one point she insists that any anthropologist will tell you that rites of passage, performed all over the world, produce cognitive dissonance, which she seems to conflate with stress. This is untrue and misses the point of the reference. The Aronson & Mills study referenced in that entry examined the role of cognitive dissonance in severe initiation rituals and demonstrated Leon Festinger's theory that cognitive dissonance will intensify attachment to the group. She is incorrect that it's the stress or "stress chemicals" that intensify the bond. It's not "stress amongst the body" or "because of the biochemical makeup of yourself."

    A person in cognitive dissonance needs to mentally justify things, like tremendous cost, so that their actions and their thoughts remain harmonious. So if you've made a large sacrifice for an initiation, you are more likely to invest mentally and emotionally rather than let yourself think you've made that sacrifice for nothing. For more information on Festinger's cognitive dissonance theory, scroll up the page to the main blog post.

    She really gives the game away, though, when she goes on to talk about various rites of passage without ever applying that three step framework. Many of the examples she cites don't appear to have all or even any of these steps. The problem is compounded by the fact that she calls so many things rites of passage that she pretty well empties the term of any meaning. Not all of her rites of passage are even minor rituals, and you can't have a rite of passage, less'n there's a rite. So, no.

    To sum up on teal's primary error in this teacast, let me just say this: Not every rite is a passage and not every passage is a rite.

    It also seems that she's fundamentally misunderstood the point of a rite of passage, focusing almost entirely on the context. She seems to see them as functioning to bind people to cultures and subcultures. Most rites of passage occur within the cultures and subcultures one already inhabits. Bar and Bat Mitzvahs, for instance, don't transition a child into Judaism, but into an adulthood. They may change or, in some cases deepen, a person's relationship to their culture or religion, but this is not the main point of a rite of passage. So all her examples of toxic rites of passage like induction into gangs and fraternities really miss the point. Initiations into certain groups are exactly that and it only muddies the waters in a discussion about rites of passage. The purpose of a rite of passage is the formal acknowledgement of changes within an individual, and secondarily their changing role in society. With initiations into specific groups, it's the inverse.

    - to be cont -

  192. Noncast: The Bottomless Rabbit Hole pt 7

    Some of the most important rites of passage have to do with the transition into adulthood. This is something that I have addressed in blog posts and even in one of the noncasts a while back. Shaman Christina Pratt has identified this rite of passage as both crucial and largely absent from modern societies. The consequences are dire. She discussed this in a recent and most excellent podcast. (Hers are real podcasts, btw. They can be downoaded from iTunes and played on other devices.)

    You know, when I first saw that the topic of tea would be Rites of Passage, I was afraid that it was going to be teal plagiarizing from Christina's material on youth initiations. After listening to 40 minutes of her drivel, I wish she'd just plagiarized Christina.

    "After 40 minutes of this shit, I wish she'd just plagiarized Barbara Cartland." ~ J

    So, honestly, I recommend people just listen to that and other shows Christina has done on the importance of ritual initiations into adulthood. Again, what she's found after years of practice, is that many people have lost soul parts during adolescence that can be found still waiting for their initiation.

    This appears to be what Sarbdeep is alluding to as he repeatedly attempts to explain his discomfort over never having experienced an initiation into manhood. All of this is complicated by a painfully obvious father wound and what he clumsily articulates here as his longing for a mentor. Sarbdeep did not look happy through much of this discussion and teal's cues for the adulation she usually receives from him seemed to fall on deaf ears. He simply looked glum. He seems to be in a lot of pain over this issue and his needs were not met. His questions were not answered in teal's rant for and against rites of passage.

    There were some very strange dynamics in this outing. Mostly, Sarbs looked like he'd mentally checked out for a lot of it, tuning in periodically to refocus the conversation from her stream-of-consciousness blather, by introducing a member question.

    "That's a man who's beginning to despair." ~ J

    He also woke up briefly when teal mentioned Ayahuasca. This came on the heels of outrageous claims about baptisms curing blindness. Strangely, she seems to have taken these apocryphal reports on faith. It's all about the "belief" in the ritual, according to teal. Then she starts on about how some generic man who feels blocked in his ability to access the spiritual dimension might go do an Ayahuasca ceremony. It's not just the medicine, she says, it's about their "belief" in that ritual. Such a man might come back saying he can see auras and so on.

    I suspect this is a veiled shot at Sarbdeep's "need" for Ayahuasca, which she has already stated she believes is a crutch. Sarbdeep looks annoyed and starts doing that yeah, yeah, thing again. Then he opens his laptop once more to look for another member question.

    "He's got that you've insulted me smile." ~ J

    - to be cont -

  193. Noncast: The Bottomless Rabbit Hole pt 8

    Minutes later she launches into an admittedly not politically correct rant about "faux men." Oh if only these boys could be initiated into real manhood. Then "there'd be a lot more sex."

    "And there we go." ~ J

    Sarbdeep who has been nodding along suddenly looks like he's been hit between the eyes with a hammer.

    It was also a little strange that so many of teal's examples of rites of passage had to do with becoming single and there wasn't one mention of marriage, which would seem to be one of the more obvious ones.

    Her examples of rites of passage range from the strange to the ridiculous. Again, many of her rites of passage involve no rites. They're just normal life transitions, but this allows her to strangely deduce that we have many rites of passage. According to teal, developing children have rites of passage all day -- like learning to stand, walk, and eat solid food. Most people call those developmental milestones. But to teal, they're rites of passage and, "You can't escape rites of passage."

    This is woefully inaccurate.

    Even the SATs are a rite of passage, according to teal. That she calls them SAT tests just makes it hilarious. (Statistical Aptitude Test tests) She also left us wondering if she'd ever taken her SATs because she seems to have badly misunderstood them. They benefit the test givers, not the potential college student, says teal, because failing a portion of the test that has no bearing on your desired major can keep you out of college. But SATs evaluate two things: language and math. There are three sections: reading, writing, and math. It's the odd college curriculum that language and math will have no bearing upon.

    "You've failed interpretive dance on your SATs. No Harvard for you. I'm afraid it's going to have to be one of the lesser ivies." ~ J

    We're certain of this much. If there were a history portion on the SATs, teal would fail catastrophically. According to herself, we had tribal cultures in the past who performed various rites of passage, which "shackled" these tribesmen into roles they may not have wanted. This was in the 1700s and 1800s. Now, there are indigenous tribes, today, even some extant precontact cultures, but in most of Europe and North America, tribal culture was pretty well over by the early 1700s. There were shackles, alright. African and Native American tribal peoples wore them on many an auction block. For a non-gamer, she's got quite the penchant for creative anachronisms.

    "She really needs to stop getting her history from LARPer fan fiction." ~ J

    - to be cont -


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