tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post659662337301790604..comments2024-02-10T02:58:07.102-05:00Comments on Celestial Reflections: Restoring Integrity: Teal and The Presence ProcessLaVaughnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09147322061125012346noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-62025521110202195212019-05-28T11:01:04.625-04:002019-05-28T11:01:04.625-04:00She can copy whatever she wants, it's not the ...She can copy whatever she wants, it's not the words that are important.Gil Monteverdehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12843109048974538071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-82807822517002776172017-09-17T22:16:24.356-04:002017-09-17T22:16:24.356-04:00Yessssssssss
Yessssssssss<br />Eli Nashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15774811024399824558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-17700120715090220682017-05-06T12:27:07.285-04:002017-05-06T12:27:07.285-04:00Continuous Connected Breathing is also an idea pla...Continuous Connected Breathing is also an idea plagiarized from the work of Leonard Orr and his work on rebirthing. Leonard a disciple of Hariakhan Baba who gave his blessings for his work.<br /><br />The problem is two fold, not only the money making aspect but the stealing of Pagan Hindu ideas without due respect or reference to them for consumption by bigoted Christians who are much more interested in the decimation of that culture by their political missions.Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03164013537304490018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-27317884243724771952017-04-06T19:22:25.825-04:002017-04-06T19:22:25.825-04:00I was watching a Teal video about "opening yo...I was watching a Teal video about "opening your throat chakra", the one that speaks to your "purity" and your "truth". And I was thinking, gee, for someone who speaks about "voice" she does have squeaky, constricted way of talking. Now I know why: it's because somehow it transpires that what she knows she's not genuine. Phew.Foufinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17454629717636810391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-56117465534196626162017-04-06T16:05:23.681-04:002017-04-06T16:05:23.681-04:00Go to the Amora Obscura blog. The link is in my bl...Go to the Amora Obscura blog. The link is in my blogroll. His posts are republished on that site.LaHueserahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100483369111611427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-84414145379035574952017-04-06T02:25:57.564-04:002017-04-06T02:25:57.564-04:00OK. It seems that Sarbdeep's diary entries now...OK. It seems that Sarbdeep's diary entries now require password to login.Fang Hehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07117782419128071545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-63074977762527804802016-12-01T01:54:11.865-05:002016-12-01T01:54:11.865-05:00I wonder what the status is now and if he is going...I wonder what the status is now and if he is going to sue!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03261013806988593229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-72215008669567220062016-10-29T13:03:03.655-04:002016-10-29T13:03:03.655-04:00Did you also read this other person's book, sc...Did you also read this other person's book, scribble in it, highlight passages in it, and listen to the audio of it on long drives... as you were coming up with all of this independently?<br /><br /><a href="http://sarbswan.com/2016/09/11/the-completion-process/" rel="nofollow">http://sarbswan.com/2016/09/11/the-completion-process/</a> LaVaughnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09147322061125012346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-70224739612050614212016-10-29T12:47:10.797-04:002016-10-29T12:47:10.797-04:00I admit that I didn't take the time to read th...I admit that I didn't take the time to read through every single part of this post, however, I would like to share a general comment. This comment is not directed anyone specific.<br /><br />I went through some difficult and (for me) traumatic experiences over the course of the past 20 years. In the midst of my difficulties and as a means to try and begin my healing process, I started writing things that I didn't share with anyone. I had a friend that I talked with about it, but that's it. I spent time writing the basis for a book and a guide on how to manage things for people who find themselves in a similar situation. I put it down for a long time and never really got it off the ground beyond my own computer documents folder; but years later, as I entered a field that exposed me more to professionals in that realm, I came across a mediator who had prepared a list of what to do in similar circumstances. The suggestions she made were extremely similar to what I had written over the years and saved only to my own computer. I have never met this person and I have never read any articles written by her (if she even has any), but in my daily job, I came across her mediation agreement (that is provided to clients) and that's where I saw her list of what to do and what not to do for parents during a difficult separation. I was shocked at how similar it was to what I had been writing strictly based on my own experiences and with having absolutely NO prior exposure to this person or her work until years later. (I do not know when she put together her list). <br /><br />My overall point is, it's possible for people to go through experiences and come up with similar and sometimes the same ideas as someone else, without ever having come into contact with the other or having plagiarized anything!<br /><br />People sometimes get so caught up in claiming things as strictly their own that the beneficial message gets lost and drowned in an argument about ownership of ideas, which sounds completely ego-based to me, and which doesn't at all benefit the collective. <br /><br />It seems extremely unrealistic and egotistical to automatically think that only one person can come up with ideas, conclusions, thought processes, etc., and that anyone else is plagiarizing, considering that we ALL go through very similar experiences throughout our lifetime. Again, it just dilutes everything down to an argument of egotistical ownership, and drowns out the overall message and healing that derives from it.<br /><br />I think that both Brown and Swan genuinely conceived these ideas and teachings from their own experiences and separate from each other. If only one person were capable of conceiving an idea or healing process or coming to specific conclusions, then wouldn't we be overwhelmed with billions upon billions of differing ideas, conclusions, processes, etc., that no one can resonate with because by default, it would be impossible for us to think that same way?? <br /><br />Do you really expect there to be a monopoly on an idea or a process when we are all going through very similar experiences as everyone else on the planet?? <br /><br />Byron Katie says something about how we are never the only person going through what we're going through (that's not an exact quote), but it's true! <br /><br />Also... maybe someone resonates more with Swan than they do with Brown and vice versa. And honestly, who cares? Do you feel as though you are benefiting from the message you are accepting from either person? Yes? Then good. Why not just focus on that and continue on your own path? <br /><br />Anyhow, that's my 2 cents.It's a Crazy Life!https://www.blogger.com/profile/12853207388721355684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-16219838596898723032016-09-20T08:37:21.578-04:002016-09-20T08:37:21.578-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05072977227227387355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-52956493529841942402016-09-20T08:37:18.749-04:002016-09-20T08:37:18.749-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05072977227227387355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-39321177125838159352016-09-20T08:37:16.428-04:002016-09-20T08:37:16.428-04:00I got Michael Brown´s book for ages now and always...I got Michael Brown´s book for ages now and always wanted to do it. Do you think he plagiarized it from Ruskan?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05072977227227387355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-19598238335115601532016-09-12T06:44:01.485-04:002016-09-12T06:44:01.485-04:00I'm going to post this on this page as well, f...I'm going to post this on this page as well, for obvious reasons. <br /><br />"She claims that she has created TCP as an original and revolutionary new technique, and that it has 'healed' her. These are lies, blatant and easily proved. I have personally witnessed her using, scribbling on, highlighting through and using <b>The Presence Process by Michael Brown</b>, telling those around her that ‘It’s the best book I’ve ever come across’. She listened to the audio version incessantly, sometimes on long, all day stretches or on long drives. She has falsely claimed that she has created TCP from her own life experience, divine intuition and 'universal perspective'. I have learnt in the past 6 months that it was copied from Brown’s work, and this is how I came to that realisation: In a previous blog I wrote about how I was instrumental in her securing the best deal for TCP. Back then, I still believed in her and did know she used Brown’s work for herself and had erroneously assumed TCP was <b>inspired</b> by it, not <b>plagiarised</b>."<br /><br /><a href="http://sarbswan.com/2016/09/11/the-completion-process/" rel="nofollow">http://sarbswan.com/2016/09/11/the-completion-process/</a>LaVaughnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09147322061125012346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-10906236364373975452016-09-11T03:32:55.271-04:002016-09-11T03:32:55.271-04:00There is an even older book published in 1998 by J...There is an even older book published in 1998 by John Ruskan called Emotional Clearing which basically presents the same concepts and develops the same process which Brown and Teal claim to have authored. That book is amazing, Browns and Teals version do not even come close.pluto_xyzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05762967990291171033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-37085168134733439982016-09-04T15:14:59.876-04:002016-09-04T15:14:59.876-04:00Thankyou for this!! So many people awakening to th...Thankyou for this!! So many people awakening to the 'teal-lusion'. I hope this makes tealers take a pause and re-examine their addiction to Teal.Aiúahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06710352005316220393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-4677926265102890972016-09-03T12:46:36.964-04:002016-09-03T12:46:36.964-04:00I have to say a BIG, BIG thank you to celestialvap...I have to say a BIG, BIG thank you to celestialvapor, LaVaughn, Cameron Clarke, Ma Nithya Swarupapriyanada and many others who have contributed to painstaking research and well-constructed arguments against the misinterpretation of spiritual knowledge from many new age "teachers", including Teal Swan. I was a follower of hers (although not the die hard fan) and came across her videos and felt that they made sense. But, when you don't know a topic (and in this case, spirituality), you can easily be duped. It may sound right but, when you actually apply her methods and teaching, they don't work! At first, I wasn't really sure about the accusations against Teal and quickly assumed that Cameron's time spent with her was like a case of an ex-girlfriend (ranting and spewing out hatred because the relationship didn't work). And in fact, didn't want to see the whole interview she had with Jessica Schab (which I can imagine is typical behaviour of Tealers). I actually, in Gabriel's blog about the Teal Swan scandal, defended her. But, when Sarbdeep Swan released a blog about his experience living with Teal, and the fact that he used the same words to describe her (a narcissistic sociopath), it really made me stop and think that can two different people be wrong about their judgments about a person they had some kind of a relationship with? <br /><br />Then it was LaVaughn's blog: Fullmetal Plagirist that really got me thinking (and wondering) about the legitimacy of Teal's claims to many 'psychic powers' she was born with. Then just reading more and more from the various blogs about Teal (which took a couple of hours, I'll admit), I came to realize that there's just too many skeletons in her closet. I understand that no one's perfect but I do think that as a spiritual teacher or guide, you gotta be a least a couple of steps ahead of the people that you're trying to help and not hurdle to your bed and cry just because you hear one shred of criticism. From all this controversy surrounding her claims to ritual abuse and her plagiarism, I've decided to stop listening to any of her videos, unfollowed her on facebook and threw out her second book, Shadows before Dawn, to the garbage (thinking that I'm glad I didn't actually apply any of these techniques to my self-development and sparred myself of future damage). Once again, thank you so much for all this hard work that everyone has done and keep up the good work.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14397267138926654640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-26522409597945182952016-09-02T07:00:03.220-04:002016-09-02T07:00:03.220-04:00Funny!! Oh, how can they be so shameles?!Funny!! Oh, how can they be so shameles?!Elenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07333684106248882467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-3021492246442471992016-09-01T15:24:47.291-04:002016-09-01T15:24:47.291-04:00All hell has broken loose on the Amazon listing fo...All hell has broken loose on the Amazon listing for teal's book. Nithyananda followers have descended in droves to call teal out for her plagiarism and suicide obsession. The teal camp is fighting back with its own comment campaign.<br /><br />The winner of the most fraudulent comment in the entire fracas, though, has to be this one by Graciela. She just found this book? Oh, what serendipity! And it brought her back from the brink of suicide? It's been out for all of a week! Note that she does not disclose that she works for and lives with teal. How is it that she was on the brink of suicide before the book came out, when she's been living with and working for teal for years? Oh... right. Actually that makes sense.<br /><br /><a href="http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/LaHuesera/Public/GracielaFindsaBook_zps8lyr3lno.png" rel="nofollow">http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/LaHuesera/Public/GracielaFindsaBook_zps8lyr3lno.png</a>LaVaughnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09147322061125012346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-62423286858483905102016-08-31T02:02:36.252-04:002016-08-31T02:02:36.252-04:00HAHA. I doubt she'd go for that idea. She woul...HAHA. I doubt she'd go for that idea. She wouldn't make any money off it.celestialvaporhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229879227885904292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-4552121078806281112016-08-31T02:01:06.481-04:002016-08-31T02:01:06.481-04:00Thanks so much! I'd love to read them. Haha. T...Thanks so much! I'd love to read them. Haha. That's a good way to put it.celestialvaporhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229879227885904292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-79397690360143550122016-08-31T02:00:16.335-04:002016-08-31T02:00:16.335-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.celestialvaporhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229879227885904292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-21586832960650439742016-08-31T01:58:47.369-04:002016-08-31T01:58:47.369-04:00Yes, he knows! :)Yes, he knows! :)celestialvaporhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229879227885904292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-29580388345979122792016-08-28T11:08:41.150-04:002016-08-28T11:08:41.150-04:00Of COURSE she skips the step of "giving what ...Of COURSE she skips the step of "giving what you need to receive"<br /><br />Great work. A pity that most of her followers will ignore or explain it away. But if it allows just one fan to wake up from her spell it will be worth it. en este celdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17744532948187668402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-7148199325480591462016-08-26T12:04:39.572-04:002016-08-26T12:04:39.572-04:00Beautiful work. I got an email the other day abou...Beautiful work. I got an email the other day about her new book, and I felt quite sad knowing that it's all a lie. She really makes her brand of lies seem genuinely nice upon first glance, for me. This morning, my boyfriend handed me a copy of Brown 's book. I guess I lent it to him years ago, without reading it myself. Sorry, universe, for not reading the good stuff at first. I'm ready now. I'm looking forward to her getting sued and chalking it up to haters. Katherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17035759464045440847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6766906560812521746.post-5133944283171841112016-08-25T03:32:57.606-04:002016-08-25T03:32:57.606-04:00Haven't watched the video yet but in the very ...Haven't watched the video yet but in the very first few recent comments all the classics are there "it doesn't matter who's right or wrong, what matters is.. blah blah blah". /"who cares about plagiarism",/ "there is no judgement, good or bad is the same from different perspectives"..<br /><br />followers are so unoriginal *sigh* <br /><br /> Gaby Petrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15677556237640103336noreply@blogger.com